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I am tired of your string of nonsensical, needlessly argumentative, and personally insulting posts. I may get thread-banned from my own thread, but at this point I must call it as I see it - you are a jerk. This is all nonsense, and anyone who reads the thread will see it. OK. 190,000 / 20...

Based on the following arguments, I am giving up on zero BAB for casters: 1) It would mess up touch spells. 2) Bonuses based on BAB would go to monsters. 3) Certain spells negate a lack of BAB and would be hard to adjudicate. Now, I am on to "flair" (name based on the movie Office Space)...

Exactly! So stop posting! Look, pick one or the other: - include feats and spells - exclude feats and spells. I was comparing how much BAB is gained, but if you want to compare overall melee ability gained, you have to consider the spell side of things. Your apples to oranges arguments...

Let me start by saying that if we started a discussion about D&D mechanics from scratch, rather than starting from my "no BAB for casters" prop. I think we would be 95% in agreement based on your posts. That said, let me make a few points. I agree 100%. Here is the point I am making: While...

If you want to arrgue like a 2-year-old, do it somewhere else please. So stop talking about fighter feats. How many sides does your mouth have, anyways? Huh? With the same amount of XP, they have 1/2 full BAB. Period. Both types of classes have equally diminishing returns. I will grant...

OK, I guess you didn't. LMAO. 1) See my response to Umbran - you are intentionally quoting me out of context to make a straw-man argument (now I sound like Arrowhawk, LOL). 2) Why is that another issue entirely? If the fighter gets credit for their feats, the castre should get credit for...

Yes, but as the wizard gains XP, she gains BAB. As the fighter gains XP, she does not gain cross-class (bard/rogue) skills. So, you have actually made my point. Exactly. And, as I have said over and over, the point of the thread is to boost melee characters so they are (a teeny bit) closer to...

SLAs are not spells and the SLAs available from these feats are not equivalent to 50% spellcasting (or even 5% spellcasting), unlike the wizards' 50% BAB. Feats that require fighter levels are: weapon specialization, greater weapon specialization, greater weapon focus and necropotent. Not...

Wizards MAY, pursuant to the rules, have high STR and take fighter feats (albeit less of them). Fighters MAY NOT get spells. The mechanics need fixing. Admittedly, BAB is only the tip of the iceberg, and may not be worth changing at all, but I still think that a wizard learning to melee 1/2 as...

Casters gain XP for fights whether or not they melee. If they never melee, why does their BAB increase. Again, this is a game mechanic, not a life simulator.

If by "poor" you mean fully 1/2 as good as someone dedicated to fighting, then you are correct. So, let's take a fan of ultimate fighting, who watches it ALL the time, and throw them in the ring and see if they are 1/2 as good. Remember that a fantasy world full of magic and monsters has never...

Been there, done that. EDIT: pic removed for personal reasons. Congrats, by the way!!

Short answer to a long-winded question: Because it's a game mechanic for a fantasy role-playing game that worked.

Go to the check box labeled "Display Spells and Powers." Check it. Wait a few seconds. Profit.

I apologize that my vision of a wizard as a fantasy game mechanic is insulting to your real life experiences as one. I understand now that a wizard must be good at everything or many people find the result unacceptable.

I can't XP, but this is exactly right. EWP at first level for free is nothing compared to what I just suggested to add to melee classes, and it is still a drop in the bucket vs. spells. Heck, not even. And ToB is fantastic. In fact, if you gave Warblade EWP for several weapons for free, it...

Are you SURE you want to get "pointed"?

Any chance you'll make it to either ConnCon or Gen Con? I am definitely going to the former, thinking about the latter.