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    WotC Hasbro's CEO Reports OGL-Related D&D Beyond Cancellations Had Minimal Impact

    Returning to this thread after a day at work, I wanted to come back to this point you're making @Morrus, to go into more detail on the point I am wanting to make about what wotc/hasbro/Kyle Brinks/Chris Cocks are saying. So here's the position Chris Cocks is in - his subsidiary has completely...
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    WotC Hasbro's CEO Reports OGL-Related D&D Beyond Cancellations Had Minimal Impact

    That's your personal opinion, and I respect it as such. For myself, I think it is tainted, and I prefer to give my money to companies that deal honestly (or at least 'largely honestly' - I accept there will almost always be some amount of BS-ing, but in my view wotc/hasbro aren't being in any...
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    WotC Hasbro's CEO Reports OGL-Related D&D Beyond Cancellations Had Minimal Impact

    I edited my initial post to point out that corporations indeed do mislead investors. No, I haven't provided a specific example, and no, I shouldn't really need to, it's hardly a secret. But if that's what you want, I'll do 5 minutes of googling and pick a few examples. But, to answer your...
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    WotC Hasbro's CEO Reports OGL-Related D&D Beyond Cancellations Had Minimal Impact

    The assumption you're making though is that Chris Cocks is telling the truth, which in the absence of hard numbers, I personally don't believe - simply because wotc/hasbro have done nothing, and continue to do nothing, that earns any belief in anything they say. What he says, particularly...
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    Ginny Di interviews WotC's Kyle Brink

    But that is not the line you quoted. What you quoted was this - ——————————— What I wrote was this - “Firstly, I will admit I did not provide an example that directly spoke to your original question regarding 1.2”. The only thing “interesting“ about my admission is that you clearly didn’t...
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    Ginny Di interviews WotC's Kyle Brink

    Nope, you didn’t. Nope again. I admitted that I got that wrong. No, I didn’t, see above. Well I will say that I did state in the reply to darjr that I have given other examples in my other posts - the forum software makes them pretty easy to find, why not go have a look? This is pretty...
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    Ginny Di interviews WotC's Kyle Brink

    Wow, just wow. You've quoted one line from my somewhat long post and then completely misrepresented it. You didn't happen to go to the wotc school of disingenuous BS did you? I really wish people would start taking their time to actually read and comprehend. Firstly, I will admit I did not...
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    Ginny Di interviews WotC's Kyle Brink

    @mamba was asking for evidence from me in regard to my assertion that there is ample evidence that KB is being completely disingenuous in his responses. I have already listed in some of my other posts what I believe to be some of that evidence. But here's another one from a portion of the...
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    Ginny Di interviews WotC's Kyle Brink

    The value is in being honest, in being willing to own one’s mistakes, warts and all. I haven’t watched every moment of the interviews so far but I haven’t seen or read anything that deals with that horrendous first response. But I accept I may have missed something and would be very happy to be...
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    Ginny Di interviews WotC's Kyle Brink

    BlueFin said: A decent PR rep could have come out with a more or less immediate response to get ahead of the story. I am from Australia and don't know anything about the "crashed train in Ohio", but on the surface it's a false equivalence because it can take...
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    Ginny Di interviews WotC's Kyle Brink

    I shouldn't really need to clarify because I was clear. My subsequent point is (which I didn't bother to explain) - In your response you said "If they really were already revising things and thinking a new version was almost ready to release I can totally understand thinking it better to wait...
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    Ginny Di interviews WotC's Kyle Brink

    What made them look like liars, more than anything else, was the astoundingly bad 1st response (it's hard to find a superlative expressive enough to describe how bad it was). A decent PR rep could have come out with a more or less immediate response to get ahead of the story. But instead they...
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    Ginny Di interviews WotC's Kyle Brink

    That’s all fine and all, but you’re responding to a statement I didn’t make 😉
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    Ginny Di interviews WotC's Kyle Brink

    The point of 1.2 is they left the door gapingly open, in multiple clauses, to go ahead and do all of that at some future point, or indeed to completely pull the rug out of anyone who used that license by voiding it - pretty much at any time they wanted. Like I said, it was more dishonest than...
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    Ginny Di interviews WotC's Kyle Brink

    Agreed, I don't make KB personally responsible either. But what you have gone on to describe here is the very reason why for me, they aren't rebuilding trust. I think they need to be painfully honest. No-one, for example, would want to take ownership of that first response on D&D beyond, but...
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    Ginny Di interviews WotC's Kyle Brink

    That's your interpretation of what I wrote, and it's incorrect. I am posing the question as to whether people are arriving at their conclusions after applying at least some level of critical thought, or willingly accepting what KB is saying as truth without consideration. I am not saying one...
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    Ginny Di interviews WotC's Kyle Brink

    Oh wow, I had never heard this quote before, and now I will never forget it. Perfect for many occasions. 😂
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    Ginny Di interviews WotC's Kyle Brink

    The Big Question - "how are you planning to regain our trust"? The answer to this is to stop lying to us, but he/they continue to do just that. This is the third interview with KB that I have either watched or read a summary of. His answers are total BS, and completely incongruent. In this...
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    Kyle Brink (D&D Exec Producer) On OGL Controversy & One D&D (Summary)

    I started selecting portions of the summary to quote as “BS” and then realised I was just selecting every point. I’m most likely rehashing a hundred or more other people’s comments but here goes … This is nothing but corporate BS. The whole “I don’t know what happened in meetings I wasn’t...
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    It is time to forgive WOTC and get back onboard.

    There’s a BIG difference between holding a grudge and holding to account. It is actually far too soon for anyone to assume this is over. At present, all we are is where we were just a few short weeks ago, with a little sweetener on top. They have said they are leaving 1.0a alone, and very...
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