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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    That is fair, if we were using an XP system, we'd follow this guidance.
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I tend to think most players, match the energy of the group or table they're at. If the GM is half-assed fair, runs a decent game consistently and the table is inviting, competitive or not, I could see myself enjoy it. In Lanefan's games the strong theme is survivability with multiple...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Sure, but don't you think there is some leeway here in that many players and GMs borrow and steal from cinema and literature. We emulate cool scenes, smart dialogue, action sequences, interesting characters. Recently I had a villain inspired by Heath Ledger's joker. The table had a lot of fun...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    In casual talk, with my table, bypassing refers to combat or dangerous exploration encounters (you could throw traps in here) while missed is used to refer to social and exploration that pose no danger. i.e. you guys missed chatting to x at the Social Encounter Tavern or missed the opportunity...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Bypassing encounters which would typically be improvised (i.e. not planned)? ... So the encounters are created at random. Technically that could happen I suppose (thinking through several RE examples). Im of the opinion it's more common to use such term through for planned content but you would...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I agree that it's not in-fiction conversation between characters. As a GM I may say after a session to the players while recounting the game, that they were smart/fortunate as they bypassed x encounters by doing x. We may discuss what impact bypassing those encounters had on their resources...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I've never shied away that the setting is the GMPC. I'm the one who selected which APs/modules as well as homebrew content exists. The PCs drive play in so far as directing me what to prep from the above GM content. Intermixed in all of that are their character goals which I prep for only when...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    This becomes even more prevalent when you have multiple storylines the PCs can engage in particularly in sandbox. It is not just an encounter or even a series of encounters bypassed but entire storylines.
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Technically encounter is all of that but in casual conversation when someone says "the PCs bypassed the encounter" we tend to think it's a combat encounter which was bypassed/avoided.
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    Spoilers Star Trek: Deep Space Nine

    DS9 is just a gem for world building with the various races - specifically the Ferengi, Changelings, Klingon, Trill, Cardassian, Bajoran, Romulans, Jem'Hadar and Vorta
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Although our table does have milestone levelling when certain story or party goals are achieved (player-facing) we also have individualistic awards based on focusing on the character's TIBF. If the TIBF goes against the party decision then yes to earn that XP and satisfy the TIBF the PC would...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Is anyone insisting this is in-fiction talk?
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I provide 2 ways to level up - Engage with your Traits, Bonds, Ideals, Flaws to gain 1 XP (there are limitations, you cannot button mash 1 of them etc). Gain XP equal to your level. They are level 15, it is not easy. EDIT: Important the table decides if your engagement is XP worthy. - Story...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Sorry missed this. Interesting. It is true Trad GMs have a variety of styles. It then comes down to knowing your table, knowing your GM etc. This is very important. However having said that, this is a good representation of some of the old narrative boxes which existed in the modules and it...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    When a GM uses the words bypassed/avoided the encounter, GENERALLY, the actions of the PCs saw to it that the combat never happened. They avoided it, they bypassed it. Now one can use it in the sense of any type of encounter (social, explorative, trap etc) but in my experience it is mostly used...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Can you please provide an example of this in play? Open dialogue between GM and players. GM: I haven't thought this all through or how it may pertain, I will have to get back to you; OR GM: I'd like to make this work x way, can we quickly brainstorm on how this may work and importantly to...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Lets use the example I provided upthread. PCs teleport in, steal the mcguffin and teleport out. How have they interacted with the all the encounters they did not engage with?
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Okay. Please explain how you view sneaking past the defenders is not avoiding/bypassing the encounters with the defenders? No one mentioned anything about in-the-fiction. This is you reframing the conversation. There is no need for anything. Again this is a reframe of the conversation. The...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Okay by this logic. 1. Engaging with the encounters is choosing to assault head on. 2. Not engaging with the encounter is NOT choosing to sneak. 3. Avoiding or bypassing the encounters is NOT choosing to sneak. 4. Choosing to sneak is choosing to sneak. Are you standing by this logic. You...
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