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Your assessment is what I also believe most of the time. However, I wonder whether or not some computer software, combined with a "heroes of battle" type approach of presenting things from the PC perspective, could be used to create something interesting. After all, I don't think anyone is so...

This is what happens when you don't follow the recommended guidelines of 4 PCs for an adventuring party.

Yech! Bad Idea. I was hoping they weren't going to go this route. It might have worked in the old days, for example, the ruined abbey in the 1E DMG. But that was back when people weren't afraid to print a rulebook in 4 point font. If WotC want's to put out a module, I say let them do a...

Your still playing Dungeons and Dragons though. That's a game from the '80s, at best. Then again, that was my point - who really cares? In fact, the game is about stealing tropes from ancient and medieval history - so something being old fashioned, you would think would be a virtue. In any...

The core of the issue AFAICT is that you're trying to suggest that there is a logical fallacy where it's really a case of you not agreeing with his premise, or the characteristics of the things that he's drawing an analogy from. His analogy, AFAICT established that as long as he believed a...

An analogy doesn't presume that two things are identical, so I don't know what you're reasoning is trying to show here. Trivial is in the eye of the beholder. It's uninformative to just throw in adjectives in places where the issue is actually in dispute. I would guess that whatever...

The analogy is sufficient to establish the possibility that something is profitable in the short term without necessarily being good for the hobby. Obviously you disagree and so the analogy is unconvincing, but conflating this with some sort of logical error IMO is mistaken. You object to the...

"Out-dated"?! This is Dungeons and Dragons. Go tell the next person you meet that you play Dungeons and Dragons. And then tell them "but I play a more modern style". :confused: Anyway, if someone enjoys a certain kind of game, who cares? As for the rest of this, it's imaginative but weird...

Why not? It's his analogy. If I don't like heroin, and I don't like a game element, then the two have that in common and the analogy stands. Granted, it's a bit exaggerated. Just because you don't like the implications of an analogy doesn't make it a false analogy. If he's trying to suggest...

In general, yes, but I think the complexity of a completely realistic solution would unplayable. So I guess it's a matter of finding the sweetspot.

I agree. The 1st level character whose player hasn't played before and the one whose player is a 30 year veteran of DnD are both 1st level characters. Why would it make sense that one character would know what combat options to take and the other wouldn't. IMO that's an inappopriate use of...

Yea, that's what I was recognizing. At least one of my players IME is not going to want to do the politics thing, and because dungeon crawling IME is something that the other players can at least tolerate, that's what they'll do.

The AD&D rules did this but IMO not well. IMO the Basic rules (BECMI version) did this better. But I've never seen the real execution of either. One of the glaring problems IMO with doing this in ADnD was a lack of playable mass combat rules. Of course it's debateable whether or not Battle...

Do rich people spend any time guarding their wealth? I figured they hired someone to do that for them. And then hired someone to watch that person. And then hired someone to watch the person watching that person. IME if the PCs can spend their money on the stuff that appeals to them, then...

This is a little vague but the tone of what you're saying here I don't agree with. Yes, the choices that the DMs make affects the way that money is used in the game. But the DM can't be blamed for wanting his players to have some fun. If every game session that I DMed involved me saying "ok...

But purchasing isn't unreliable except in the most extreme cases. For the most part you just hire people to do the thinking for you. Now some DMs will handle this by having this person screw you over, and certainly that does happen from time to time in real life, but while the DMs NPC can rip...

The visceral reaction that a peasant in folklore has when standing before a big mound of gold (or holding a leprechaun, or commanding a genie, or any of the equivalents) has been one of extreme avarice. Now granted, the outcomes are not always pleasant because many of these stories are morality...

But gold isn't identical to power and it's that lack of identity that's the problem. Because while in the real world gold might easily purchase power, in DnD being a DM is power and the DMs rulings can nerf what gold is capable of doing. A real world politician just sends 100 soldiers after...

Nobody's squawking. I think that's disrespectful, but I'm not even exactly sure what the animal noise metaphor suggests. There are plenty of concerns posted and they're not all animal-noise related. Basically, it advances nothing in the conversation to assume the worst case scenario. If...

I agree, no reason. Creature comforts just don't translate well into the DnD game, even though it's the bulk of what people IRL spend their money on (because hiring personal armies is frowned upon I suppose - well, mostly). If you use the Mob template you can actually turn 48 commoners into a...