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Okay, I challenge you to prove to me and the other pro-4e people that the Sleep spell in its current incarnation is a lethal spell. :D

"Ninjae" .... *wince* :( But that's quite correct. The only reason not to roll up an important NPC as a PC is if you don't have a player's handbook and are unable to. ;) I can't imagine very many DMs being in that boat, though.

That there will be Wayne Reynolds illustrations throughout the books, and not just on the cover. That some of the high level fighter, ranger, and rogue maneuvers will be inexplicable except in terms of magic, meaning that I'll have to come up with new maneuvers to replace them that will be...

I agree that they worded it badly. However, I think that constant tripping is more damaging to SoD than a limited use trip attack. Have you ever thought about the connotations of trying to trip someone with a sharp, pointy object that they are trying frantically to stick into every part of...

Brilliant! Now I don't need to pull my punches with the PCs, and if they happen to have a fight turn against them, I can just have them captured with a built-in mechanic, rather than having to inflict a TPK on them. :D

I concur, Henry. The old "Horde is more mature" saw has been rarely borne out in my experience. Personally, I think that the equation of "my character is ugly, so he's bad***, so I must be bad***" would be most characteristic of a teenage demographic. Older people generally aren't as worried...

I agree with you wholeheartedly. I don't like the cover one bit. I don't like Wayne Reynold's art one bit. And to top it all off, almost every humanoid creature he depicts has deformed feet -- he did a picture of some Japanese warrior monks for Osprey, and their feet must be all of 4 inches...

Points to remember: 1. Complaining about a lack of role-playing in a situation where role-playing is impossible is not really a cogent argument, IMO. 2. Role-playing has never really been in D&D combat. It's all hack, slash, roll the dice. Role-playing is, strictly speaking, just deciding...

Exactly. For example, criticizing 4e's "split the tree" (and yes, "greater manyshot" stuck in my craw just as hard in 3e -- although I can explain both away by saying it's a momentary spurt of extra-rapid shooting that the archer can't maintain) or the "shielding smite" are critiques with an...

Considering that the new edition has specifically been described as including social encounter rules more complex than the "save-or-die" approach of Diplomacy, I'd say that the odds favor the "this is showing you how combat works" explanation. It would be bizarre marketing to repeatedly mention...

Although I really like a lot of what I've seen of 4th edition, I agree that these two disconnected effects of one ability are something that I rather dislike. However, I also see why they made them. There used to be dozens, scores, perhaps hundreds of discussions over on the Wizards boards...

I've said it before and I'm going to say it again. If you think that another edition is superior to 4th edition, why don't you just go play it? Why worry about 4th edition? If you've already got perfection, why are you attacking 4th edition when its publication cannot alter in any way, shape, or...

Probably the fact that many of the anti-4e posters -- -- use perjorative and condescending concepts such as "4e is dumbed down" and "4e is for little kids" (thus basically stating that anyone who likes it is a moron whose opinion can be discounted). -- complain endlessly about EVERYTHING...

Okay, since my attempt to explain my viewpoint was derided as "condescending" and a "rant," I'll try to make it clearer this time. Hit points in D&D are an abstraction. When a 1st level fighter takes 10 points of damage, he dies. All of that damage is physical. When a 10th level fighter takes...

I concur with you. Much as I like many aspects of 4e (to the point where I'm definitely going to buy it and play it), the DnD Game Table just seems .... lacking. In fact, I don't intend to make use of it either, for many of the same reasons you cited. Furthermore, it's going to make houseruling...

This pretty much sums up my thoughts on the matter, as well. The fact that all classes have foozles, maneuvers, or whatever, doesn't mean that they're all the same. If the mage foozle lets you cook 30 orcs in an instant with a blast of arcane fire, while a cleric foozle is totally unable to do...

I voted truthfully for #6. :D

This is pretty much how I saw it, also. It appeared to me that the original post in this regard was wondering if 4th edition may solve enough basic mechanical problems that Monte Cook-like variants would be unnecessary or less necessary. And was trying to do so in a catchy way.

I tend to agree with this point. ;) And besides which, have you ever thought about the consequences of sticking your hand into a bag of live, unhappy rats? I'm not sure if the shredded tendons and ripped-off fingernails would leave you in much of a condition for pulling one of them out...

Actually, my colon was completely removed in 1991, and I haven't missed the blasted thing once. Almost killed me, actually, before it was removed. It's not at all necessary to the operation of your system. Getting rid of the megacolon of Vancian magic is kind of like giving D&D a very timely...