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My guess is that two-weapon fighting is ranger-stuff... Evil paladins is a good thing, though I generally dislike paladins. Love that description of the fireball remaining around him :) I think I'm gonna lika the sorcerer when it is released. Dislike the name, love everything else...

So the perfect Phb would have only the rules for dwarfs/elfs/whatever, and not a single line of fluff?

Whoops, you are right... :uhoh: I must have assumed that they were listed when I wrote the response, considering they've been mentioned alot during playtests and such.

I totally agree.

But as it seems the multiclassing rules will allow you to pick talents from other classes while maintaining your original class. That'd make the system very versatile and your character would have loads of options, with the only real restriction being the number of talents you have.

The problem is at earlier levels: A cleric6/ftr2 has sacrificed an entire level of spells for +0,5 BAB and two bonus feats.

Yeah, exactly, so the dwarf is better fit to be a fighter.. But there is nothing hindering him from being a rogue; or hindering an eladrin from being a fighter...

I love how everyone seems totally scared by multiclassing and acts like their character is in an Order of the stick world, were you actually walk around say: "I'm a fighter14 with two rogue talents and one wizard spell." They don't. That character might refer to himself as master of the...

Not as a mechanic, but as fluff; At least that's my interpretation.

If it doesn't work this way I'm house-ruling it :D

With my limited knowledge of magic I would say dwarfs are white actually (law, order, tradition... right?). Only connection to red really is the mountain thing?

Yes, that is my hope and vision :P And there is a meaningful decision: Do I learn another clerical spell, or pick up some lockpicking skills, or some fighting ability...etc ?

If multiclassing carries no penalty (indeed, by the hints it seems you can even keep your original class) than I don't see a problem here. Want spring attack? Pick it up as a rogue talent with multiclassing. Same thing for some ranger archery stuff. Seems great to me :)

Oh yeah, I'm loving it :) Halflings as merchants.. Woo!! :D Second Second Wind sounds very dwarfy indeed Low-Light for Dwarfs :p Don't care for dragonborn, but I'll not use them, so I don't care Not particularly fond of eladrin either, but I know that some people like elfs as arcane masters...

This is only true if caster progression works as in 3.5e. My guess is that in 4e you wouldn't slow down the caster progression, you would just elect to take two-weapon fighting from fighter instead of a spell/power from the cleric. Which wouldn't be sub-optimal, if the different powers are...

Yeah, I would like something like this. Except the multiclass rule, I don't see why that is needed; It'd make single-class an inferior option...

Didn't one of the playtest talk about a warforged with DR? Edit: Ah, I was right. Castle smoulderthorn 3, last paragraph: Off-topic: Just realised it mentions psychic damage too.

I'm all for making crossbows viable, but please not via a feat/talent that allows free action reload... that's just... ridiculous :p

This, and then add som fun special abilities to each type of weapon

If the multiclass system works out nice this could probably be done with rogue...