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I've of course played D&D with hit points, but found the massive damage rule to have been an after-though kludge. As a Hero player for many years, I liked the split Body & Stun setup, which enabled people to be ko'd, or to be still fighting and bleeding to death, seemed to cover the full range...

Thanks, nice info, but a lot of fluff too, want some more substantive direct information on spell point systems that are out there (some of those are interesting systems, but not really spell point).

I have a few questions about spell power points in d20/d20ish games: 1. What are the various methods of assigning base power points for magic-using characters in d20/d20ish games? (Sub-question, any way to adjust those points, e.g., feats available?) 2. How do these points get recovered...

A follow-up on this, I use maps for minis on them only where there is something going on, 99% of the time I mean battles (maybe a trap situation for the other 1%) - so I'm still unclear when people are using hexes only for outside if they aren't really doing *anything*?

Yeah, that's a good idea for the Chessex style battlemats - I haven't seen them like that, but that would be pretty cool, and eliminate interpretation issues (except maybe who can shoot at who measurements?).

Perhaps. But for a large company like WotC, if they just called Palladium's bluff, it's unlikely Palladium would actually do anything, because if they got a negative court ruling out of it, then their ability to threaten others would be significantly diminished.

I'm guessing that must be some detailed d20 rule? I don't bother with such detailed rules in games, for the sake of having the game flow enjoyably, and just eyeball it, whether it's hexes or squares. Never had any issues, over a range of gaming groups, just give people the benefit of the doubt.

I was wondering the same thing, they seem the same. As for half-hexes, I let people stand in them, doesn't seem to be an issue.

LOL, really? That's hilarious, I'm surprised they would capitulate like that, on what in most all circumstances (note, there are exceptions), is perfectly legal. Bullies are great! :\ Slaughter, an intellectual property attorney

Er, Hero pre-dated both of them, and is still going strong.

Cool, thanks! Interesting stuff, but how is that better than just using one of those roll up maps? I have a big one of those and don't seem to have issues with people going "off-map" really (though I do have a small one too for backup). Seems a bit pricey too, but it's been a LONG time since...

I think the soapbox above probably covers this ;) As for tall/wide, I assume you mean length/width, as I didn't say whether it had a ceiling ;) Looking back at it, it looks to me like it's 6.5 hexes long, and 5 hexes wide. Can you clarify why you are asking? Just wondering what the confusion...

Interesting, I wouldn't think the Gs could flank B either, that's part of the point of backing up against a wall... As for your drawing, I sort of see what your saying about H and the adjacent wall, but I think if people draw it through the hex overlaps like I did, rather than at the edge of...

I'm not sure what you mean by difficulties in drawing regularly shaped rooms with hexes, maybe I've used hexes for so long? For instance, I've attached just a quickly drawn room on crappy hex paper - can you (or others) explain this difficulty you have?

I notice many of you mentioned that you use hexes for outdoors/overland travel and then squares for battles/combat - but what do you mean when you have outdoors combat?

Tac-Tiles? Got a link?

For those who use gaming maps when playing, what do you use, hexes or squares? For d20 players, do you use hexes or squares? (E.g., does anyone who plays 3.5 D&D use hex maps instead of squares?)

Thanks for the info. I live *maybe* 5 minutes from you, up Fayetteville Rd (Hope Valley Farms subdivision), looking for weekday evening gaming though.

Where are you in Durham, and when do you play?