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Since you talk about being respectful then, why did you seem to vouching for labelling people's attitude as "stupid" -- that's not a respectful choice of words. It seems to me that democracy is about deciding what's included as well as what's excluded from shared human experience, and nobody IME...

I guess about as much as warlords are considered encompassed in a fighter class with leader option. What is the criteria for choosing 5% or 10% or 15% -- they're all arbitrary. Nope. There are many, many threads about this which cannot be boiled down to a simple dislike.

I disagree, but how about Kender then or whatever? Gnomes get to be in the core because 10% of players really want gnomes in the core rules, but Kender aren't in the core because they didn't make the 10% cutoff -- that's a line in the sand that Gnome-lovers are not excluded and Kender lovers...

So where do you draw the line in the sand? The gnome effect's 10% mark is another line in the sand, after all. If 5E excludes say, the Great Wheel, than Great Wheel lovers are being denied the chance to explore the multiverse they want to play in "core" 5E (or insert another more appropriate...

Nivenus, I've become confused by exactly what you're saying. Regarding these atttitudes, I think the difference between 1e and 2e, and 2e and 3e, and 3e and 4e, and 4e and 5e -- they're all lines in the sand. There are no objectively right or wrong rules for a right or wrong story. Neverthless...

No, my issue exactly is using the words "stupid" and "arbitrary" and "ignorant jerk". For example, with the poll "Would you like to see Healing Surges in the next edition of D&D?", over 50% votes "No, I don't want Healing Surges". Is it helpful for us to start calling the OP or the voters...

It doesn't, but that's not what I dispute. I dispute that it's stupid or arbitrary or being an ignorant jerk to simply desire to exclude subjectively dissonant elements from a story. Separate optional adventure modules and optional sidebars was exactly the correct approach for dealing with...

I think your statement is unnecessarily polarizing. First of all, it depends on the context, and it's not arbitrary. If a new player wanted to create a halfling called Clint Eastwood wearing a cowboy hat, it's not stupid or arbitrary for others to express discontent. If a new player wants to...

Sure, there are various ways to phrase it. Let's not use "stupid", okay? I think "stupid" and "selfish" are like gateway drugs.

Are those my only 2 choices?

Is "stupid" the word you really you want to use?

I don't, not yet anyway. Besides, if 4E was the best core, then WoTC would have just kept the focus on 4E and Essentials, instead of announcing so early a 5E that will unify all D&D players.

I remember the first book being boring and difficult as you say. It got better. I remembered The One Tree being particularily good -- there are at least two scenes so engrossing that I forgot I was reading in bed.

I like hold person, not happy at all about tielfings. I'll call it even. Especially if tieflings are labelled as a Rare race, or mechancially are like a bloodline template.

I NEVER liked Cha-based sorcerers. Once I played a dour sorcerer and just couldn't get over the Cha stat that was creating cognitive dissonance with my character concept. In drawing upon literary references, I think that people might be confusing causation with correlation. Just because this or...

As portrayed in movies, I agree assassins are not necessarily Evil, but AFAIR assassin= evil was always a contention in older editions. I'm with you on that. The definition of assassin seems to be a murderer, who kills in a surprise attack for monetary, political and/or religious reasons. I...

I would have no problem with surges as an optional bundle that changes the game from Medium to Easy. I would then mostly play 'medium' D&D with no surges, but maybe once in a while try 'easy' high fantasy D&D with surges. So far, I'm pleasantly surprised at the poll results so far.

Well, it's not THAT simple. The gnome isn't a controversial race; it was only missing from the PHB because AFAIR the 4E design team hadn't nailed down a unique flavor for the gnome. Let's say that 10% of all players want to play an assassin. The problem is that the other 90% might protest that...

Or perhaps...? Gamism - Let's kick pretend orc butt Simulation/Immersion - I'm pretending to be a fighter trying to kick orc butt Narrativism - We're pretending these heroes have/are/will kick orc butt Still not sure that any of this theory as is is actually useful. I suspect that Monte and...

I voted Yes, but I regretted that after I read the blurb later about dwarves and axes and thought the issue was more nuanced then a simple general yes or no.