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  1. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I think it really depends on the DM. Some dungeon crawls have factions of creatures in them to interact with, so social failures could be assigned interesting consequences. Exploration failures could also have them pretty easily in a dungeon crawl. You can fail at the task(your play wasn't...
  2. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Yeah. I don't see how it can be questioned that fail forward can be used in D&D. It can be used in any RPG that I can think of.
  3. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Because games are designed so that the players are having fun. How do they have fun? typically by having their characters encounter interesting things to do and see, which means that automatically those characters are not having boring lives. If those characters are not encountering those...
  4. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    In my game I don't bother asking them, because if they fail a roll to dragon fear, they will tell me how their character is reacting on their own. Also, my issue isn't with supernatural effects like dragon fear or domination, but with persuasion checks and intimidation. If the big, bad...
  5. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    The problem I'm having with your way of playing is that there are billions of NPCs out there and I cannot know more than a very small handful well enough to play out what they would or would not do in a given situation. The overwhelming majority of them will just have an alignment at best, and...
  6. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    The problem with Gygax was that he was very schizophrenic in his writing, often writing passages and rules that were in complete opposition to other passages and rules, leaving us trying to figure out which he meant, with no real way to do that. It was further compounded when he and others he...
  7. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    You can't just arbitrarily change the scope. The player has only 1 PC and has lost control over 100% of the characters he controls. The same cannot be said about mine, since I control billions and have only lost control over 1 whatever billionths of the NPCs I control. It's not about length...
  8. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Lack of movement =/= lack of agency over what a character thinks and feels. As for the players exercising mind control over the NPCs. Yes they are. They are diminishing MY agency when they do that. However, since I control 10 billion and 1 NPCs, the amount of agency I lose is a tiny fraction...
  9. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    So now the quiet picking of the lock guarantees quiet opening of the door and quiet entering of the kitchen? And the cook has to be there or she wouldn't be present to hear the failed check. If the check determines if she's there or not, we're back to having a quantum cook who is both there...
  10. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    No. The "successful" persuasion roll forces me to act out of character for my PC. That's mind control. That's not at all like an attack roll. There's no mind control involved in the roll to hit. Only one of those removes all agency from me, and it's not the attack roll. That removal of...
  11. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Those, unless they are mind control, don't force the character to do something. Dead just means that I make a new character, or if death is just whack a mole like some games have, a pause before I can resume deciding what my character can do. Same with unconsciousness. Neither of those forces...
  12. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Whoever that was can't tell the difference between a character and a player, because all of that advice is about entertaining the player. The character's life was already not boring, so none of those is actually need in order to "make the players' characters' lives not boring." Fail forward...
  13. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    You keep conflating the dice telling the result of somethin with the dice forcing the character to do something. The dice don't tell me to attack. I decide that. The dice just decide of I succeed. If someone tried to persuade me to give them my magic item and succeed in the roll so I have to...
  14. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    There is no double standard here, because those things are not equivalent with decision making. As a warrior I decide when and who to attack, and which ability to use, not the dice. As a wizard, I decide when I want to see if I know something, pick my proficiencies, etc., not the dice. Same...
  15. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I want to preface this by saying I can't see who you are talking to, so this might be completely out of context. :P The determination to run away can be 100% in character, 100% out of character, or any combination of the above. Going with the beholder example, sure it would absolutely make...
  16. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    When they unlocked the lock. Not when they open the door and the cook is standing there. And you still haven't explained why a skilled thief trying to be quiet becomes a Keystone Cop and makes a ton of noise on a failure to open the lock. You've claimed it makes sense, but I'm not seeing it...
  17. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I think Blorb is a silly name, but the principle isn't Blorb. The principle is what is described when you read Blorb. If someone says I follow the Blorb principle, almost no one in this world will know what you are talking about. If you tell them you follow the principle of an eye for an...
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  19. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    That's bias for the characters, not being a neutral arbiter. If I have a challenging encounter set up and they get there and through great ideas and/or planning make it an easy encounter, that's awesome. Good for them. If they get there and haven't done anything particularly effective and...
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