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I think an easy fix would be to just alter the duration? It says 7 Rounds. Just make it 1d4 rounds?

I would sympathize with you if this is the case and I would definitely fault the Dm. I don't advocate DmM's being dictators. I think all people at the table have to come to a consensus when the rules are unclear.

Well to be fair this conversation was just about people that found the Bard silly ( seriously :) read the title of the thread) :) Im just kidding. Im only bringing it up because I feel that we are all getting aggravated at one another ( We aren't to the point of being uncivil yet and that's a...

Where has THIS guy been!!!?? Am I right??? Thanks for the clarification! :)

Well we cant have you go changing the Romans! That would be tragic! LOL Ultimately whatever works for your group is good. As a GM I find it harder and harder to balance aspects of the game because it seems that Rules lawyering has become more and more prevelant over the years. Not a bad thing In...

That all makes sense. I declare you the winner of this thread.

The difference is that the rules are MUCH more clear on the example cited above, so I would agree with you that it is a good rule and that there isn't really a lack of clarity over how that works. The magic Missile vs Mirror image rule is a little less clear so at the end of the day its not...

Why? Of all the things that deserve disbelief that is what Breaks it for you? LOL Not Dragon men, or UNDERMOUNTAIN ( The 850 Level dungeon that a dude made just for kicks), or Or The Enormous sandy desert that continuously grows , etc... I Don't love Forgotten realms. I don't think it holds a...

Fair enough! I will make the disclaimer here though That if you like Bards and you do Not find them Silly, then that is Fantastic! I really mean that. I desire to NOT find them silly actually :) And the good news is this thread has helped me, so Although I was definitely giving bard lovers some...

Sounds like players need to start running into more Fire Giants in leather armor ASAP!

This seems very melodramatic. No one is suggesting a DM should rewrite the book. In cases like the one we are discussing where there is confusion over how something works its ok for the DM to propose what he thinks is correct and as long as everyone else agrees there's no problem. Its not DM vs...

I disagree but that's okay. I don't need the rules to have fun. The DM is ultimately telling a story and sometimes the rules don't help him do that. For me its all about story. rules are guidelines. I get that sometimes there are Sh*t DM's and THEY bend the rules to be Dicky, But then I just...

Anyone enjoy this game? I find it to be one of my favorites but I can never get fellow gamers that interested in it. granted you do have to like Arthurian Legend to get the "Most" out of it,, But I find the system Unique and simple but amazing. Anyone else really dig this game? Or Not dig it as...

I once played a Pixie and also a Centaur knight. I really liked My Centaur Knight :)

Le Sigh.... This thread has made me wistful... So many great memories as a kid in Greyhawk. I will always think its the best world ( Golarion is close for me, But not quite as cool). The time I met Prince Melf Brightflame on the Borders of Celene. So awesome :)

Fair enough. I can respect a bard that uses a spell pouch. Now he is taking his adventuring SERIOUSLY! Good job Bard. Fighter Approves * head Nod*

Exactly. And also how does he KNOW which one is real since they look the same and mimic one another? Is it ALWAYS the dude in the center? I don't think so or else whoever created that spell has zero common sense and almost wasted their time creating the spell! :)

"Hits" refers to a successful attack roll? I dint know that. I am actually interested on the source for that if you have one Arial?

Or maybe its not weird that we don't see them holding their foci,? because maybe the artist would think it looked..dare I say...Silly!!! LOL Just kidding!

Ok, So then Magic Missile doesn't function at all on someone that has Mirror images up right? :) I mean you have to have a target and know what that target is right? If a person doesn't have a way to tell the actual person ( thus being able to target them) then the Magic missile simply can't...