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You misunderstand, (or maybe I misunderstood you ;)) my group doesn't wait and get everything at the end. They tell me they're searching...I give them the magic item, no rolls needed.

I never understood having to make a roll to detect whether an item is magical. According to the rules, if the party misses and item, you're supposed to give that treasure to them later on anyway right? So what's the point, the party is going to have to get the item one way or the other or...

I'm currently DMing for a group that just seems flat out immune to grab. Almost every character has access to a power that moves either another party member or the enemy, which autobreaks grabs. I'm thinking about getting rid of the autobreak for movement and just granting a bonus of about +2...