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The game does not assume you must always be able to reach these or your character is a failure. You are not an incompetent failure with a 15 in your primary. You are definitely not with a 13 in your secondary. Your tertiary matters so little it could be a 6* and you'd still be playable. *) I...

When I use "evaluate" I mean in a power balancing way, not in a "should we keep it or ditch it" way. I'm talking about evaluating a feat or feature for the character that is built to use it, rather than just some random average character. Failing to do this has resulted in a great many ttrpgs...

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Sorry, you are arguing "it's too difficult, just give up". And please don't pick examples that might well be better suited to remaining a single-classed subclass. The idea was never to open up all sub classes, only some of them. (And some only to classes sharing the same "power source"*) *)...

I was reassuring Autumnal I am not considering their playstyle bad or wrong. As for my own preferences, I am definitely on board with the thread's aims :)

A warrior type character could definitely be made into a god of carnage. But I was talking about the single-classed Fighter. The fighter that didn't take any prestige classes. Or, indeed, many many builds that tried to go for theme over mechanical optimization.

This. The value is a MUCH richer option space when it comes to selecting your subclass. Of course, as long as your choice is life long it doesn't really matter too much. But then imagine subclasses only taking you from, say level 3 through level 11. At level 12 it's time to choose again...

Let me state for the record: you can absolutely feature demihumans in your S&S.

Be assured there's also a vociferous contingent on this forum that wants more non-magical options for martials :)

That would throw out the baby with the bathwater. What I could see working, however, is granting non-magical martials abilities that let them protect themselves against magic to certain degrees. For example, if a level 20 strength-based character could bash a Wall of Force through sheer...

On the other hand, from the Tiger's perspective it is a graceful stealthy beast. That it has immense strength is just a secondary byproduct. You wouldn't say a Tiger is a "strength build" the way a Bear or Great Ape (like Hulk ;) ) is...

That said I do understand the criticism. The way backgrounds are done now means asking for a custom background, where you can pick whatever options is best for your character will feel like blatant minmaxing. Either the DM allows it and all that PHB space is effectively wasted because players...

A fighter is MUCH more viable in 5E than in 3E. Maybe it's not enough for you to play one, but the improvements are definite and the disparity is small enough for me to say fighters are definitely pulling their weight in a 5E party. Remember; in 3E a single-classed fighter were a joke. Plus...

Please don't move the goal posts. This thread isn't called "DCC is a morally better game and D&D gamers should be ashamed". It's title is suggesting DCC funnel rules are bad and my posts are arguing no they're not objectively bad but they ARE trying to do something the OP might have no...

D&D is not perfect but much less bad in 5E than in 3E. The martial-caster divide was much more severe in 3E. The way NPCs were created as PCs broke the game several ways, not least by how time-consuming their creation became at higher levels.

"should never be allowed" - you're clearly not familiar with American capitalism...

That's actually much more the point that you maybe realize. The point is to get away from the player entitlement that D&D almost fosters. If you have harrowing memories and perhaps even survivor's guilt (or at least can put yourself in the shoes of a character with such trauma), that's a huge...

I could say the reverse to you: If having the game rules and in-world NPCs telling you how smart and daring and heroic you are, despite you being given extreme advantages and benefits not given to anyone else (in particular the hapless monsters you harvest for fun), is enough to give you the...

Except now you're ignoring all those who complained about losing race bonuses? Why are you presenting your preferred outcome as the least controversial outcome?

Except of course Orcs are fictional creatures. If a professor in Paleontology told me Neanderthals or Homo Erectus or whatever were statistically less intelligent than Homo Sapiens, I would simply take her word for it. The same way, if Tolkien or GRRM tells me their Orcs are dummer than not...