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@Dannyalcatraz and @Snarf Zagyg You guys are gonna love this one... So, some lawyers use generative AI to prepare submissions to the court. And, as you should know, AI sometimes makes stuff up, but presents it as factual. Well, now a judge apparently decided a case on basis of cases that did...

Yeah, but folks who insist that feelings need to be substantiated with facts are extremely un-funny.

Pretty much. This is not at all surprising - it is a feature of most systems, that you pull out the stops when you face tougher opponents.

I will not engage in the politics - and I suggest you don't either, as we have rules about that around here. But, if we step away from the internet for a moment, and look at the broader historical context, it becomes quite clear that the bulk of our regulations come as reactions to events...

Oh, by the way, this is insulting, and also not generally correct. The issue wasn't just "barrier to entry". It was also (indeed more) burden to play, even well past entry. And don't give us that "mathematically-challenged groups" crud. I am a physicist - in no way mathematically-challenged...

Citation needed. Do you have some document of their expectations the rest of us have not seen, or something? Or are you interpreting what you saw of corporate behavior to support that preferred narrative? Because, as I recall, it has been pretty well agreed that 5e is associated with...

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Oh, but that's not how liability works at all! Tool makers are successfully sued regularly over misuses of their tools that they didn't do enough to prevent! This is why there are warning stickers all over aluminum ladders, and why bags used for packaging have warnings to not let babies stick...

In general, incorrect, from a legal standpoint. As I understand it, making a copy for personal use is the carve out. If you made a million copies, and started handing them out, even for free, you'd probably be in violation. You may ethically feel that, since they aren't going to sell any...

Hardly. I don't wish for this at all. It is just a consequence of what you're insisting upon. Do not start from the position that middle-men are immune - that part is wishful thinking. Historically, they aren't immune. Start from the position that a publisher can sue anyone involved in the...

Copies of something you already legally purchased, for your own personal use, are usually considered fair.

Again - do you want the company that makes the AI to log every prompt it is given, and hand them over to content publishers to vet for whether your use infringed?

Yeah, that's not gonna fly, because such enforcement is intractable, and also bad for the end users. We are approaching the point that every household in America can ask a generative AI to create an all-new Kung Fu Panda movie each night. Enforcement would require tracking that use by the...

And the regulations mean that those harmed have a framework for legal recourse.

Also, we are not talking about you cooking dinner for your family with modern grocery stores and cooking equipment. This is a pseudo-medieval cook for a household, who has to do everything, from scratch, every day, without electrically-powered tools. While 2:30 AM might be a bit early, 4 AM...

Do not make perfect the enemy of good.

Because humans have shown that, without regulation, too many of us are jerks enough to use tech in ways that do significant harm.

I don't see how it matters where the manufacture happens.

Yeah, but with an entire planet of fungus, it is not entirely clear who ends up the wageslaves....