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What was the change? What did the runes say before the check was made?

Upthread, @Maxperson gave an example of a player saying their PC looked for a farrier in the village. And though Maxperson's notes didn't include a farrier, he added one in. That is the GM responding to the player's hope. But no one supposes that, in the fiction, the PC's hope made the farrier...

I don't really see how this matters. Upthread, multiple posters - including you, I think, but maybe I'm wrong one that - described the player as deciding what the runes say. My point is that he didn't. He rolled dice, and won the roll. Much as a person might enter a lottery, and win: that...

If things are dramatic and move forward regardless of success and failure, then there is no reason for the players to prefer failure. (Which is one of the things you conjectured.) If the GM has regard to the fiction of the characters in narrating consequences, then it will not be the case that...

Nor does it in my example. The runes show a way out; but the character doesn't know that yet. The character tries to read them, hoping that they will show the way out. And they do!

I am not using "backstory" to mean "character backstory". I'm using it to mean the background fiction.

OK? Perhaps you've missed it, but there have been many posts in this thread, from a variety of posters, asserting things like there is no connection between the character who read the runes, and the runes or that there is no connection between the burglar and the cook or that there is no...

This seems to assume that nothing dramatic that "brings the story forward" will happen on a success, such that players who want such things should aim to fail their rolls even if this means not advocating for their characters. It also seems to assume that the GM is not expected to have regard...

Situation: a problem or circumstance faced by the character.

I don't know why you don't acknowledge that I introduced the example as an illustration of a player's action declaration establishing some backstory element; and I even drew the contrast with TB2e which takes a different approach to backstory from MHRP/Cortex+ Heroic: You seem to think that...

It is talking about succeeding or failing on a roll. Also, there is an assumption in most of the posts on this thread that all that is at stake, in a roll, is some tactical or operational question, such that the only way to fail is for the attempted task to not produce all the goodies that were...

You can define "situation" that way if you like. I wasn't.

The character can know it: by reading the runes! They don't know in advance, but nor does the player. Both are hoping. Turning to AW, there is no player-side move when you try and decipher strange writing. Nor when you use your intellect to try and find a way out of a place where you're lost...

I don't know BitD well enough to comment. AW, no. Because the GM does not "embody the setting" in AW. The players play a crucial role in respect of the setting in multiple ways in the game.

This is true - to the extent that it is - of all RPGing. I mean, it's all just "narrative dressing", that is, establishing shared fiction: Roleplaying's Fundamental Act Roleplaying is negotiated imagination. In order for any thing to be true in game, all the participants in the game (players...

I'm not sure where this stipulation of "fail forward" is coming from. "Fail forward" means that, on a failed roll/throw/check/test, the situation does not remain as it was prior the the roll having been made. Or, to put it another way, it means that every roll of the dice changes the situation...

Which can be a trivial feature of a lottery: as I just posted, my friends and I can decide to raffle <X> among ourselves (where X is some thing that one of us owns), and draw lots for it. This notion that someone else always sets the prize in a lottery is (a) false, as per the example just...

Yes, I know. But that's not relevant to the point I was making.

This is an empirical question about a given lottery. For instance, my friend and I can all agree to raffle off <this thing that one of us owns>, each put our tokens into a hat, and draw one out. Whoever wins, wins. They win a prize that they were party to choosing. But they didn't decide to win...

This can't be known from the descriptions you gave. For example, why does the player describe their PC as having a bond with a blacksmith? If it's because they're inhabiting their PC and that is what follows, then actor stance. If it's because they think that that is a bond that will help...