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But how are those details, of where the PC learned things, established. And how do you create the character's memories? Does the player decide what the PC remembers about religious matters? Or does the GM? If the latter, is this a departure from the principle that "The GM controls the world, the...

It's not about being "nitpicky". @TheFirebird said that the issues I mentioned don't arise in their games. And I replied. Do you agree that knowledge checks violate "simulationist" causation? Or do you have a different way of handling them? Also, not far upthread you posted this: So sometimes...

I don't tell you how to go about RPGing. What makes you think you're entitled to tell me how to do it? Especially when it seems obvious you have little or no familiarity with how Marvel Heroic RP actually works. Cam Banks posted that what I was doing with MHRP/Cortex+ Heroic was "really great"...

Just to add to what @EzekielRaiden already posted in response to this: which RPG are you talking about, when you refer to a "well established game procedure"? I mean, classic D&D has those sorts of random encounter rolls. 4e D&D, by default, does not. Burning Wheel doesn't have them at all. As...

I've not said that they are the same in every respect. I have said that they are the same in some respects. One respect in which they are the same is this: before the dice are rolled, the player has a hope for what the state of the fiction will be (in one case, I - the PC - have killed the Orc...

Why would it happen on success or failure? I talked about a "diegetic reason" - that is, a reason that comes from the shared fiction. As I said, it's a kitchen, there is a burglar, the burglar has bungled their burgling attempt, and so they have startled a cook in the kitchen. There is nothing...

I don't know if your RPGing involves knowledge checks or not. If it does, then presumably one upshot of a successful knowledge check is that it is established here and now that, in the past of the fiction, the PC had an experience that is the cause of their present memory/knowledge. That seems...

I think you misread my post. Here it is again: I am talking about what I would or wouldn't do. Not what you are doing.

Yet is has been done! And it worked.

I've got no issue with how you did this in your game. But you also post stuff like this: And you use this sort of thing to criticise other posters' RPGing, suggest their settings lack "reality" or "verisimilitude", etc. And when posters like me and @AbdulAlhazred say that, in reality, almost no...

Sure. Who is disagreeing with that? I am saying that neither is more or less "quantum". They both involve authoring here and now, because of a real-world prompt. Although the thing that is authored did not come into being in the here-and-now of the fiction, but rather already existed. This is...

Where does the rulebook say that the player has to follow the GM's direction here? And where does the rulebook say that the GM gets to decide how common it is for people to be able to tap into it? Are you saying that a GM, in Apocalypse World, can veto a player's decision that their PC opens...

But it's hardly a criticism of Burning Wheel, or Apocalypse World, or Marvel Heroic RP, that these are not particularly well-suited for gamist play. It's not as if anyone ever asserted the contrary.

I wasn't talking about restaurant or hotel or theatre reservations. I was talking about establishing fiction in a RPG. Forgetting to include a farrier, and then deciding - in response to a player's question - "Oh, yeah, I meant to include one of them, so yes, there's a farrier in the village"...

Yes. I also think that many of those RPGers have not really grappled with the tension that arises - which I noted in my post - because X's veridical belief that Y entails that Y, even if Y is not an element, aspect, cause etc of X. Eg if Nero has a veridical belief that the slave traders user...

This is interesting. The set-up reminds me of the sort of thing I would get from the In A Wicked Age oracles. A couple of questions, if I may: * How much of the various character's secrets (eg that Leotrix is really a fraud, that Renald longs to be a poet, that Thomas and his famil/party are...

This seems wrong to me. The PC, like any other character in fiction, "exists" for anyone who reads, views, listens to, imagines, etc that fiction. And the PC and the player are not one. The player is a real person. The PC is imaginary. Somethings the player does correspond to things the PC does...

AbdulAlhazred made a post about this not too far upthread: Here is the text of Discern Realities (DW p 68): Discern Realities When you closely study a situation or person, roll+Wis. ✴On a 10+, ask the GM 3 questions from the list below. ✴On a 7–9, ask 1. Either way, take +1 forward when...

What Harper says only establishes an "ought" on the premise that it is accepted as true. It's not self-grouding. Furthermore, as I've already pointed out in this thread, reading that passage of Harper's in disregard of the rest of what he says, and of the AW rulebook, is leading some posters...

There is no difference between "confirming" and "making it up". I mean, any other GM in your position might have decided to use the absence of a farrier as a clue, turning an oversight into an opportunity - "Hmm, yes, it is strange that there's no farrier in this village." This is just a...