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That was not the situation, though. It wasn't that there were no consequences and the character could try again and again. What I did was not what you are describing.

Like I said, Max... time to shrug and move on. Very little of what you said above makes sense to me. All I can do is recommend that you read Apocalypse World or Monsterhearts and pay extra attention to the principles and everything they say, and what their purpose is. I think that would go a...

If the thief succeeds on the roll and opens the lock successfully, then the cook is either not there because she wasn't brought by the sound, or is there but unaware of the thief opening the door. I haven't explained why the thief becomes a keystone cop because I haven't said that they would...

I curse the name of the person that taught you what a Red Herring is. No, because on a success, the thief was quiet enough to not draw her attention. I feel like someone dosed me. The principle as it appears in Monsterhears is "Make each main character's life not boring". That's literally...

No. As it was my game, I'm going to explain it to you. I already have done that, but I know this is a long thread with many different tangents... but after this clarification, I am going to expect you to proceed accordingly. I don't want to see you describing my example of play in a way other...

Wait... you don't?!!?

I don’t know. I’m asking you because I don’t recall you having commented on it. Feel free to comment on either. For number 2, I don’t think I agree about what’s in peoples’ minds before hand. But I also think that there are different approaches and it doesn’t really make sense to judge one...

You originally posted the below, which is what I responded to. Any instance of lock picking will have circumstances that matter to how the GM would resolve it, depending on the roll and procedures. If you’re instead asking for an example of fail forward from a recent game, I offered the...

Such as what? It depends on so many factors. There’s not one answer. You use your creativity combined with whatever has been established to come up with something. Without context, there’s no way to give you an answer. But if the cook shows up in play, it’s because the GM introduced the...

Isn’t that the same for the folks who live in the home being broken into? Something else? Something that makes sense based on the context?

Yeah, I love when stuff like that happens. Why do you consider one "just popping into existence" but the others are present and "exist" all along?

You know what also helps? The fact that we've read the texts and therefore understand the concepts of what "level" can mean. And even still... it can cause confusion in conversation. Now... imagine we didn't read the book and have at best a second-hand understanding of the context, and yet for...

So you don't want something like that? One of the most memorable moments in gaming history?

I think the idea of "fan" as it applies to "be a fan of the characters" is more the way we can be a fan of a fictional character rather than a sports team. Like with a fictional character, we're pulling for them... we want them to make it... we want to see them pull through in the end. But we...

We've been talking about a thief. You've just recently added the "master" designation. PC skill doesn't make the cook more or less likely to be there, it makes it more or less likely for her to hear the efforts made to pick the lock. This has been explained so many times now. It's not. I...

How so? What would your concern be?

When I have suggested keeping this kind of thing brief in the past (earlier in this very thread, though likely weeks ago now), you always lament about the lost opportunities for roleplaying and something interesting to emerge. Why the seeming change of heart?

Well, that's not the principle as described. That's some stuff you said and then put the same label on it. Okay... so what about the text from Monsterhearts that was sahred by @Campbell do you disagree with or see as flawed?

It's a ridiculous concept that someone picking a lock could make more or less noise? That the noise made when doing something related to skullduggery is important? You're adding in all kinds of qualifiers here. Suddenly it's a master thief and the failure isn't just enough noise to alert...

So you agree with the principle of "make the characters' lives not boring"?