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overgeeked is right. I've played a few times with people over the years who think the point is to be utterly focused and absorb everything that everybody else does. Those guys are a pain in the ass and suck fun out of the room. It's ok to be bored and zone out when someone is concocting...

Some people have a hard time finding activities to do with other adults and they'd rather play a game they may not be completely into, with other people they like because it's better than the option of netflix.

and DM giving them spells as they progress, whether that's letting them buy them or finding them. otherwise they tend to not have what they need when they need it.

it's all variables from the DM side of the table. With different classes and different abilities the DM has to control the magical item supply and dm specials etc etc. But with current D&D rules if your DM ignores magic items, or just generate random ones instead of planning them for your...

And if you go look through my posts you'll see that spells are the one thing I've argued needs to be completely reworked after nearly 50 year's of Ad-Hoc naughty word. But what I get from your response is you want a rule book just to give fighters a similar experience to looking through all the...

because it's supposed to have a DM controlling all the details, instead of being a micromanaged game with 7 or 8 full rule books telling you what to do in every concievable situation.

Batman vs Superman was normal human with a lifetime of extraordinary training and unlimited supertech that was developed in part by reverse engineering advanced alien including kryptonian technology. Don't think I'd call that normal person versus god which is pretty much what superman equates...

how about not limiting either gives you more options?

Batman also has unlimited supertech effectively but as I write that I wonder how much of this is driven by the magic items is bad crowd that want thier fighters to do all the stuff they took away with magic items?

in 47 years I've never had anyone have a problem figuring out a warrior type in thier head. Now paladins, wizards. sorcerers, clerics and other magical powered classes I often have to give them some explanation to make it work in thier heads. I think the lack documentation you complain about...

this I disagree with. A 20th level fighter with magical weapons can be conan. A 20th level fighter with feats that give them crazy saves and lots of hitpoints can be be conan. nothing in the current rules prevents a conan at 20th level. with the current state of the wizard you'd...

My point was nothing about the game feels normal or non magical regardless of the lack of definition of where powers came from or that swinging a sword was possible in real and d&d world. Don't know anyone in all the years I've played since 1977 complaining about the source or non magical...

and yet the point completely missed you.

1st Edition...... gygax on hitpoints.......note hitpoints are supposed to be a fuzzy ill defined pool of damage you can take while still functioning without being too real.

Yeah while dodging fireballs and hacking 100 ton giants to death, surviving being kicked hard by said 100 ton giants because I made my save and killing those beholders, I often think how much like our own reality it is??????????????

and yet the game goes on....variations of this argument have been going on since the beginning. Fact is most people just don't care. Fighter's and Rogues can do what Fighters and Rogues can do and that's Ok. i'd actually argue not knowing why just make it more special. Sometimes not knowing...

I just stated what I thought was the best place for a paladin. Not the current place for a paladin.

The more generic you make anything the more bland and boring and the more fluff and junk will be created for the class. Wizard ? anyone. Then we'll see entire splat books full of "oaths" and abilities that will eventually become a list of the 5 abilities all "paladins" have to have to be...

really guys Mortal Kombat is all about the gods of our realm protecting it by makeing sure mortals learn the mystic martial arts that the gods invented to grant them power so they can save the earth. If you don't like martials getting god granted or supernatural powers fine. But Mortal Kombat...