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Exactly what I did with our group & the BR fighter build. We're doing the same with Expertise and so far everything is fine. 3/5 people have the feat and so far the effect hasn't been that noticeable. The group is also only 14th level; Expertise has yet to really hit its stride! I don't think it...

('~' ) ( '~') Rise from your grave! Still getting it, btw.

Expertise, of course! :angel: Odd? Yeah, I thought the feats were too good to be true at first, what with the rather barren selection of to-hit bonuses in the PHB1, but I'm just not troubled by them now. Call me laid-back, I guess? Or maybe a munchkin? B-)

I am jonesing for this book something fierce! Oh well, only have to wait until next Monday. For anyone interested in a closer look at ol' Demogorgon, a poster on the WotC forums was kind enough to give us a rundown of his powers: yay! i got my Monster Manual 2 just now....ask away - Wizards...

I might choose both.

Caliber, that is sweet.

You can use the techniques of an encounter power once a round. You can use the techniques of an at-will power as many times as you want during a round. So, you could use the Move Techniques of an at-will power twice in a round, or even more if you have ways to get extra move actions! You could...

Imagine a hornet landing on you and stinging the crap out of you while you run around shouting in pain. Thematic power is thematic!

The Centered Breath monk uses the feat because he has both Weapon and Implement powers. That doesn't mean some other class can't use the feat too - it has no pre-reqs at all so anyone can take it if they find it useful.

That's pretty much it, Nail. It just goes on to explain how the bonus scales and that it doesn't stack with other Expertise feats. I'm allowing the Expertise feats in my campaigns for now so I don't mind this feat. It keeps classes like swordmages from having to take both Expertise feats or...

Agreed. I would like to see enhancement bonus damage added on, otherwise their extra striker damage is pretty weak. *edit* Klaus could be right though. The Strength-centric build might get a more damaging power. Agreed here, too. I would like to see a name based more on the Wisdom-centric...

Ahhh, I knew it didn't sound right to add the enhancement bonus to flurry of blows.

Well, psionic powers seem to be called Disciplines already! I dunno what problems it would cause changing it to just Discipline... probably nothing. Agreed! So, monks get +1 to Fort, Ref, and Will, and the Wis-based build gets an extra scaling bonus to Fort. Seems like monks are going to have...

It's just less tax for certain builds so I'm down with it.

Monk vs 2 goblins. Monk hits goblin A. This triggers flurry of blows. Flurry of blows can target 1 creature. If you target goblin A you do damage = to Wis + enhancement bonus. If you target goblin B you do the same damage and slide them 1 square into a square adjacent to you.

No, flurry of blows doesn't require an attack roll. You only have to hit with an attack to trigger it, then it's free damage. I'm curious if you get to add your implement's (fist's) enhancement bonus to the damage though!

I didn't think of that. Do you get to add your implement's (fist's) enhancement bonus to the flurry of blows damage?

Nope. The trigger is you hit with an attack. The target is one creature. Anyone targeted by the flurry of blows takes damage, and if the target was not the target of the triggering attack you also get to slide them 1 square into a square adjacent to you.

It is available to all classes. It has no pre-reqs.

No, you can definitely use both, as long as you have the actions available. So, you could close distance with the Move Tech of a Full Discipline power and then use the Attack Tech, or attack and escape with the Move Tech. Elves, razorclaw shifters, and githzerai will make great Centered Breath...