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    Why is Firestorm the best 19th level control spell?

    Disintegrate may be too good of a striker power IMO for a controller. Its hard to say since virtually all of the striker dailies have additional effects outside of damage. Wounding whirlwind is actually a burst the rest seem to push, blind, daze, stun etc. Two in one shot is the only example...
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    The tragedy of 4th edition.

    I'm overall okay with the level of quality for 4es first print. I am slightly worried with the supplements coming out, there seem to be a lot of them coming out fast. Virtually every game I've even seen there is a big slide in editing quality with th supplements, sometimes with out right rules...
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    Players really want the Necromancer? (Forked: Non-published concepts you want)

    Whiskey Tango? what hole was i in when I missed the Diablo 3 news? Time to start googling, though if someone has a link I'd apreciate it. this = post full of win I never had an economy of actions issue, and I don't want to get into a big debate about it like I did in another thread. But...
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    Players really want the Necromancer? (Forked: Non-published concepts you want)

    Pretty much ditto except I also played one near the end of 2e and he was awesome for his short lifespan. 2e had some cool spells in its wizard spell compendiums for necros that helped the animating dead problem. Level 1 there was a animate animals spell level 2 a animate skeletons and level 3...
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    Sun Rods are awesome!

    I liked the idea behind alchemical items in general but some items were auto-fail due to lameness and other failed due to there mechanics, and none were win.
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    Does anyone actually like Dragonborn and Tieflings?

    I know I do. Its a pile of suck fluff on a suck mechanic sandwich. The basic idea of losing dice instead of adding subtracting to the TN is fine, virtually everything else around that and both major subsystems magic and decking(yes decking not hacking) really suck hard. But I usually leave...
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    Why is Firestorm the best 19th level control spell?

    There is a reason I've been focusing on the AoE damage comparisons. I do think evards is the better spell overall, just not by a massive margin. I also think firestorm is much better than the pure damage equivalent for the wizard at this level, which given the role of the wizard and what...
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    Why is Firestorm the best 19th level control spell?

    Sure I am not saying it stops the party cold I am saying it limits options available. And I am not even arguing its not an awesome power, I just think pure damage is useful in all situations while evards is something that can backfire on you. And heck overall I do think it is superior to...
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    Why is Firestorm the best 19th level control spell?

    Ahglock: Did you or did you NOT read what I posted and the context of it in the previous post? I didn't have to use "an entire build" to "beat" Astral Storm. I showed that Astral Storm as a spell would be insanely strong, so that's probably why it wasn't made into one. While I could make it...
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    Why is Firestorm the best 19th level control spell?

    Well it creates a area of difficult terrain which means the party gets slowed moving into it, and if you sustain it the party will be attacked if they go into it. If for some reason the party needs to or wants to get past that area it has just had a negative effect on the party. Any time a...
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    Cleave - Automatic hits on 2nd target?

    Thank you and thanks cangrejoide, I will check these out and maybe a cool 4e hybrid will be out that I will like.
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    Why is Firestorm the best 19th level control spell?

    While impressive its totally lame that you need a specific build in order to beat out a class with another role in one of your primary roles, dealing AoE damage. And also its level 30 you can turn these things into encounter powers. The game is kind of over at level 30.
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    Why is Firestorm the best 19th level control spell?

    Evards is usually a little better for what a wizard will want to do, but firestorm is a better AoE damage spell and while its continuing damage is relatively small since it does not effect the party they can sit in it and either the opnents have to retreat and trade ranged attacks or its a AoE...
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    Why is Firestorm the best 19th level control spell?

    Well okay, but I thought we were talking about 4e D&D. But hey aparently we are talking about the DemonLord57 game where control means something else. Look zippy you think of something else when you think of control. Great for you, but in 4e D&D they invented a definition of control and it...
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    Cleave - Automatic hits on 2nd target?

    I wanted it to be more Naruto like. I want people to be running across water and up walls basically at will. I want people to have maneuvers that are much more powerful than what is currently presented and be able to re-use the powers over and over if they want to. I want people to start...
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    Why is Firestorm the best 19th level control spell?

    In 4e D&D yes it freakin does for the last time. Read the dang PH pg 16, the first paragraph it describes what a controller does. Heck I will quote it part of it, since were not supposed to quote large swaths. "They favor offense over defense, using powers that deal damage to multiple foes at...
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    Does anyone actually like Dragonborn and Tieflings?

    Emo is probably one of the most misused new words out there. Any time someone has some kind of negative event in there history and its brought up they are emo. It doesn't matter if they tough up and work through it, it doesn't matter if its just a momentary woe is me moment they are emo...
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    Does anyone actually like Dragonborn and Tieflings?

    Indifferent as they are presented. If the tiefling did not look so freakin lame I might move that one to like.
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    Selling items : illogical rule ?

    No, the problem is they did not add a single sentence. current rule,. you sell magical and mundane items at 20% value a merchant sells the items at 100-120% value. When they could have said. The players can sell mundane and magical items at 20% value when they are trying to quickly unload...
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    Why is Firestorm the best 19th level control spell?

    Why did tensers transformation disappear again? Heck tensers is fine in comparison to these cleric spells because you transform into a inferior fighter and lose access to your spells. These spells go past the wizard equivalents. Apparently the 4e designers think its cool to step on a niches...
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