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Just Sayre's law. No side-bets needed... There is more than a little truth to this. William Goldman was right: “Nobody knows anything... Not one person in the entire motion picture field knows for a certainty what's going to work. Every time out it's a guess and, if you're lucky, an...

Agreed. If one is paying attention and is reasonably informed, their opinion is just as vaild as anyone else’s citing the same sources.

Good luck with that around here...

They did predict that, yet it still didn’t stop some reviews from ragging on its story/plot...

I laid out the varying forms of back-end revenue, why studios favor making a profit during a film's box office run, and even gave an example of a film that flopped, but still got a sequel thanks to the long tail revenue it made by being a fan favorite. And all you got out of it was: "nuh uh"...

I agree in principle. I just think that they would have done better had they kept the same writer/Directors, but given them a more limited budget in the 80-90m range.

It's not an irrelevant point. It's just that "Modern Income Streams" have already been addressed. Twice just by me, and Zardnaar has posted similar responses. This: More: You also missed the part where I compared D&D's flop in-progress to the 2013 Pacific Rim Flop: i.e. Even though a...

Cite me one 'industry' article that does not use the exact same Box office numbers as the articles dismissed as 'clickbaity'. Or the ones being used by Zardnaar and I. I'll wait. While we're waiting... Here are two positive articles about D&D's opening weekend using the same box office...

Are you saying that consulting someone with Years of university education + residency + years of experience in whatever specialty is not the exact same thing as looking at Box office numbers that are universally available to everyone, and doing basic math? :eek:

Mario does seem to be blowing by the expectations of those I follow that said it would do a billion. It's a mega hit, and it hasn't even opened in Korea or Japan yet... It should challenge assumptions. You compare it to an peer film like Lightyear that lost around 100m at the box office, and...

The "Industry" outlets also suggested that it "exceeded expectations"... When the actual numbers a week later told a different tale. The "Industry" has no special knowledge. I can wait a few weeks to see the final results.

Several people did amongst the youtube movie pundit channels. But they weren't "Industry guys", so naturally their opinions "don't count"... ^This^ It's ok to really like a movie that Flopped. I really liked 2012 DREDD. It bombed hard. These things happen. Was D&D an obvious Bomb like Shazam...

No I didn't. You are just pouting that you got caught in a Lie falsely claiming that I said this: And you know you lied, as you are slyly trying to move the goal posts by going back to an even older post of mine trying to score 'gotcha' points again. But I'll come back to that. You say that...

Re-reads slowly... You are right. I stand corrected. But the point I was making is still sound: They did say: "That’s a solid figure for “Honor Among Thieves,” So "good chunk" or "solid figure", whatever descriptor you use; it doesn't change the fact that D&D's opening weekend haul of...

You are not refuting any of the factual points made on the films box office performance. And the article I cited is clearly positive towards the film!! But this is easily resolved: As Zardnaar pointed out - it is using the same metrics. Box Office: ‘Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves’...

Ah yes - the ubiquitous 'Industry Puff Piece". Here's a really good example how they work: 5 Reasons Dungeons & Dragons’ Box Office Is So Big (& Crushed The Original)...

Industry pundits cite the exact same data and sources that are being used on this thread. The movie got good reviews, and the people that went to see it seem to like it. And unlike SzM2, the industry likes D&D - so it will be slower to jump on its box office short comings. D&D's week 3...

There are already a few articles declaring D&D to be a flop. Plus D&D is in week 2, SzM2 in week 4. And remember the week 3 fall off will tell the final tale. Give it a week or two then do a search. Bumblebee was much better. Probably one of the best ones. But it suffered from the reputation...

I'm a capital YOU now. Sweet! And the formula is not outdated. No one is questioning that Shazam 2 flopped using those same metrics. Just do a search for: 'Shazam 2 a flop' - and you will have your choice of several articles... D&D did not utterly tank like Shazam 2. But its numbers in...

D&D cost around 150m to make. The general rule of thumb is 1/2 of the production budget will be spent on distribution and marketing - in some cases even more. (Shazam2 cost 125m to make, and reportedly had a distribution and marketing budget of 100m.) To get a baseline of what D&D has to do...