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    Is Pathfinder 2 Paizo's 4E?

    Is that undesirable?
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    Is Pathfinder 2 Paizo's 4E?

    We're all certainly discussing things in the realm of opinion. Which is cool. I've run D&D3.x and PF1 for a long time now and never felt like I had to use the system to make opponents. I routinely redefine stock monsters in my own terms. If you look at my adventure prep you'll see things...
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    Pathfinder 2E Pathfinder Second Edition: I hear it's bad - Why Bad, How Bad?

    As a player, you could make decisions that lead to a wimpier wizard. You could short your Constitution and Dexterity, avoid armor, and never raise a shield. This would keep your AC and hit points as low as possible. The system will still augment your AC by +1 per level, so you'll eventually grow...
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    PF2 and energy damage

    I never made a study of it, so I'm likely full of crap, but I thought fire, cold, and electricity were typically the most defended, acid was commonly used against a number of regenerating monsters, and sonic was the rarest and perhaps the most likely to punch through special defenses. I didn't...
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    Pathfinder 2E Pathfinder Second Edition: I hear it's bad - Why Bad, How Bad?

    Yes, or you look at the Wizard differently. Wizards aren't necessarily easy meat when a combatant gets into the backfield. Their AC improves with level, just like the Fighter. One Feat at 2nd level and they're wearing armor just like a Fighter. Wizards don't necessarily stay in the backfield. I...
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    Pathfinder 2E Are you moving from 5E to PF2?

    I know a friend will bring PF2 back from GenCon and I'm pretty sure we'll try it. We were a PF1 game until the PF2 playtest. After the PF2 playtest, and a couple of post-playtest PF2 adventures, we've been testing the waters with 5e and played several sessions. I've no idea where that game will...
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    Pathfinder 2E Pathfinder Second Edition: I hear it's bad - Why Bad, How Bad?

    If you're willing to multi-class, yes. I did it with a Wizard. IIRC (Playtest Rules) you could have 1 AOO per day for 1 Feat and unlimited AOO per day for 2 Feats.
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    Pathfinder 2E Pathfinder Second Edition: I hear it's bad - Why Bad, How Bad?

    Yes, static vs fluid was what I was thinking. I had a longer, more thoughtful lengthy response but manged to wipe it out. If it shows up, you'll know why I have a seemingly duplicate post. I see three AOO systems: PF2, D&D5, D&D3. I think each caters to different goals. Pick the one you want...
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    Pathfinder 2E Pathfinder Second Edition: I hear it's bad - Why Bad, How Bad?

    Attacks of Opportunity are still there for Fighters and some monsters. The combats are more fluid. The group I played the PF2 Playtest in was generally okay with this extra fluidity. (I was not.) As the person who generally played a Wizard, your AC stays competitive and with a little...
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    Is Pathfinder 2 Paizo's 4E?

    I could see a future system drawing on the three-action approach for some inspiration.
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    Is Pathfinder 2 Paizo's 4E?

    Observations at my table during the playtest were that "expert" characters were frequently overshadowed by "amateur" characters. The Ranger was frequently overshadowed by the Cleric in the wilderness, for instance, because of ability scores. Adjusting the proficiency bonus made it more likely...
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    Pathfinder 2E Pathfinder Second Edition: I hear it's bad - Why Bad, How Bad?

    Its going to boil down to individual taste and then endless debate. I'm sure Paizo can be confident that PF2 matches their spirit of PF1, but that's not a guarantee that an individual consumer will share that opinion, and even then that consumer might like PF2 better. As an individual, in the...
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    Is Pathfinder 2 Paizo's 4E?

    A number of people have proposed an option where DM's get to pick the bonus per level rate. I've only seen non-Paizo people discuss it on the Paizo boards. In response to their blog about the +0/+2/+4/+6/+8 rate +0/level was suggested, though it wasn't popular.
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    Is Pathfinder 2 Paizo's 4E?

    Ah, I get you now. Thanks for the clarification. I didn't play 4e beyond the first year and remember very little about it. I've only played 5e now for 3 sessions, about 10 hours, so I wasn't able to see the pattern you were identifying. I would say that the appeal of the 5e +1/4 approach, to...
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    Is Pathfinder 2 Paizo's 4E?

    If you look at the THAC0 chart, it's essentially +1 per level, though. If 5e took it from 4e then 4e took it from 3e, 2e, 1e, etc. Maybe 4e changed the rate at which bonuses grew, but it also expanded the level count. I'd say 5e's contribution was the notion that if it constrained the numbers...
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    Pathfinder 2E Pathfinder Second Edition: I hear it's bad - Why Bad, How Bad?

    I did participate in the D&D 5e playtest, but did not play the final 5e until recently. It was simply a matter that my local games were entrenched in PF1 and didn't see a reason to change. In the after-effects of the PF2 playtest, one of those games decided to try D&D 5e and a number of folks at...
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    Pathfinder 2E Pathfinder Second Edition: I hear it's bad - Why Bad, How Bad?

    I will play PF2. Another person in my Tue/Wed game will bring it back from GenCon and run it. It will get its chance. What I don't know is if we'll stick with it. If the rules are close to the Playtest, I doubt it. I'd certainly hate to see Paizo suffer for a lowsy playtest. They've been a good...
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    Pathfinder 2E Pathfinder Second Edition: I hear it's bad - Why Bad, How Bad?

    I didn't care for the Playtest rules. I worry my playtest experience has colored my opinion of the yet unreleased Pathfinder 2 rules. I'm trying to keep an open mind, but I admit I struggle with that on boards like this, Reddit, and on the Paizo website. I'm sure a friend will bring back a copy...
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    Pick one game...

    I'll say Chivalry & Sorcery. Even though I did get to play one session once upon a time, I didn't really get a chance to see it go.
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    Systems You Left after One Bad Experience

    Oh no, a dagger through the heart. ;) I loved DQ, though I admit the magic system was crap, and while the skill system was interesting, it isn't what folks expect today. Alas, I really liked its melee combat.
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