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Guys, thanks for your time and input with this-- I think I do agree with you that most of the time these are skills are "passive" and hence mostly "reflexive". Good points, especially Mavrik, Tatsukun, Li Shenron, and Patryn of Elvenshae nice call on the "aid another"... Anyone have any...

Just a quick question, I've got players who like to try to use spot, listen, spellcraft, and knowledge skills all the time as "reflexive " actions, and therefore taking no time. I think these skills are as other skills, and take standard actions in a round, and also there are even a few feats...

And share them with your familiars :)