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I am looking forward to the optional rules in the GMG. I have been building a set of one shots for this weekend at level 1 and 20 and it is looking pretty cool. But we will see how it goes.

I was not a fan of 4e, but it did really sell a lot of product. Every other RPG publisher in the world would have been ecstatic with the sales. 4e biggest problem was always that it was produce by Hasbro, and to print the number of products they wanted to the sales had to be way bigger then they...

It is a weird product for distribution, either way all this list tells us is PF2 is selling well at the main distribution point, so Congrats, Paizo!

That is the standard problem GM products sell about 25% as well as player products. Bestiary's do a bit better than that usually but still not as well. I will be curious where the GMG and APG shake out later this year.

Not with numbers that you could compare. All you would be able to see is what was number one last year. EDIT, 2017 report for example https://icv2.com/articles/markets/view/39363/diamond-comic-distributors-top-100-games-full-year-2017 All that tells me is they used to do more magic and Wizkids...

No way for us to ever know. It would require us to have actually numbers sold and as a private company Paizo will never release that.

And I would say more importantly over only 5 months. It definitely shows me what I was already sure of the new edition was an economics decision.

Yep, Diamond is a distribution house (like Random House was for TSR for a long time and Penguin Random House distributes Wizards now) that Paizo uses to distribute to both game and book stores. As noted Wizards uses different ones, although Diamond is on their list of Distributors. This does...

I think we really need to update the post to say there were no Starfinder rulebooks released in the quarter in question. We won't actually know anything until the next report comes out for Q3.

From the context, even though D&D is getting bigger the FLGS's aren't seeing much of an increase in their sales. Still there best seller, but sales are not growing at the same rate as the popularity. And when the refer to WotC I think they are refering to DM's Guild. So PDF sales, even though...

I think Starfinder only had Adventure releases during that quarter. Alien Archive 3 and the Character Operation Manual were in Q3 and/or Q4

I don't think that one can tells much yet as the game was only out for part of the quarter. Once we see the first full quarter early next year we should have a much more realistic number.

Are there other Roll 20 numbers then the Q3 report?

Is there a way to count that somehow? I would be curious to know what those numbers looked like.

The problem we really have is we have no idea other then through anecdotal evidence how PF2 is doing. 5e seems to be booming so the fact that PF2 is sitting where it is on Amazon seems like a good place to be (but could be terrible since no real numbers). For 5e sales it seems the majority is...

Just that PF2e CRB is number 2 on Pathfinder sales on Amazon and CRP for PF1e is 11.

There were a lot of comments in the thread about it not doing as well as 5e, which as I said is not a good comparison. Based on what we can see PF2 is selling better on Amazon then PF1 which is what Paizo was shooting for. The unknown of course is how much better? We only really have the Amazon...

I hope Paizo didn't expect Pf2 to pass 5e, that would be have been really unrealistic. People forget all the time that the only time in history that D&D wasn't the number 1 selling TTRPG was after the announcement that 4e was ending production. There were still a few products coming out when...

Probably need to wait a bit to see how it shakes out. Newer products often have more negative reviews than positive. In 6 months to a year I would be interested in where it is. 5e has had 5 years to balance out those reviews. And there were a ton of early 1 star reviews for their inclusiveness...

It does work this way, and you both need to look at that table again it isn't the party level. It is the level of the challenge. See pg 503 the last paragraph in column one (last sentence). "Or you might decide that the 15th-level villain who created the dungeon crafted the wall, and use the...