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    Excerpt: Multiclassing (merged)

    That's about the only difference I can think of. Well that and the fact you can't make a class that is capable of being effective in more than one core role (without sacrificing a paragon path presumably) and actually can effectively make use of second-class abilities that are taken instead of...
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    D&D 4E Love It or Leave It: 4E Multiclassing

    Two Words: Feat Retraining. If no combination of feats/powers produces the desired effect then one can simply retrain the multiclass feats and drop that part of the concept. Another reasonable response is the DM works with the (new) player to achieve a desired result or avoiding the worst...
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    Excerpt: Multiclassing (merged)

    How exactly have they eliminated multiclassing? All I see is that two specific forms of multiclassing are basically gone: the 1e/2e system where you levelled simultaneously in multiple classes and the 3e system where you serially levelled multiple classes. Those are not the be-all and end-all...
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    Excerpt: Multiclassing (merged)

    Dovetailing on this, consider the rogue levels were taken to get more skill points for social interactions and not because he was dabbling in being a thief. In 4e this is much more elegantly handled by taking skill training feats as many times as needed to cover the core desired skills...
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    D&D 4E How would you re-envision Darksun with 4e?

    An RP advantage isn't necessarily needed as far as I'm concerned. A more smart-alecky answer might be that being universally feared and despised is its own "RP advantage" ;) After all, anything that enhances your character concept for RP purposes is an RP advantage and if your concept is "I am...
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    Excerpt: Multiclassing (merged)

    It's worth pointing out that Blizzard, in World of Warcraft, tried this exact approach (just as powerful, lacking all the versatility) in their initial design and description of the druid class. Now in WoW the druid class is capable (depending on form and talent selection) of filling up to...
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    D&D 4E How would you re-envision Darksun with 4e?

    Not necessarily, defiling could have mechanically placed effects that drain hit points from all nearby living things - starting with enemies by possibly extending to allies if the effect is great enough. Defiling magic could also incorporate a progressive system of "mutations" on the defiler...
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    D&D 4E Love It or Leave It: 4E Multiclassing

    As the "fine" folks on the WoW forums might say.... QFT! 3e multiclassing was beyond broken, it preserved all the power of the core classes that prior versions didn't have and none of the flexibility of them. Sure you could pick a different class each level. Sure you could take as many...
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    Excerpt: Multiclassing (merged)

    Consider the raw number of abilities a character will have from levels 1-10 of each category. Being "limited" to one of each category through those levels as a multiclass while still being fully effective in your base class seems reasonable to me. It achieves the "fighter who knows some magic"...
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    Excerpt: Multiclassing (merged)

    I don't know, I think it would be possible to hit three class combinations (sort of) with paragon rules. The "multiclass" option doesn't imply needing feat-based multiclassing as a prerequisite, at least not that way I read it. Class A, multiclas via feats into B Paragon -> add multiclass into...
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    Excerpt: Multiclassing (merged)

    Actually it was 3e that was the kick in the pants, not 4e. Although 4e isn't necessarily making it much better it certainly isn't making it worse. 3e multiclassing simply did not work for any caster multiclasses other than possibly some combinations of cleric/melee or druid/melee. Heavy...
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    Excerpt: Multiclassing (merged)

    Three primary goals does not imply that the goal listed first was more important than the goal listed second; or that the second goal was more important than the third. It simply means that multiclassing had three requirements in their mind and what those requirements were. It is a mistake to...
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    D&D 4E d20 Modern 4E - I want it!

    Using ability-score base classes as "races" only works in an all-human modern setting. If your modern setting includes any non-human races (such as moreaus, shadowkind, aliens, etc.) then it doesn't work. Of course you could say that the base-classes represent "subraces" of a sort, but that...
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    D&D 4E d20 Modern 4E - I want it!

    I really do think the existing combat roles in 4e could be applied to a modern or non-fantasy setting. They don't describe how one does a thing, just what sort of things one can do. Controller: Tech- and expert-types here. Little personal combat experience translates well into the "poor...
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    D&D 4E Rate your interest in 4e.

    I'm excited about it and my interest is as high as it can be, so a "9" was the right vote. I've tried running D&D games before, and found that either I or my players end up getting so bogged down in the un-fun details that campaigns never really go anywhere. I like the idea of balancing...
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    Excerpts: Angels

    I always understood a mercenary to be a paid professional soldier who when they are doing working for their current client will go find some other client to be a paid soldier for. A soldier that works for a national government and then, when their term of service is complete and they elect to...
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    Excerpts: Angels

    I'm on the other side of the spectrum on the issue of merging good and evil, at least when it comes to power. Power is not good or evil, it just *is*. Heat is not evil, it can be used for good to keep us warm in the winter or for evil to take human life or destroy property. Similarly we see...
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    Excerpts: Angels

    Exactly. The new fluff on angels doesn't invalidate the idea of "devils as fallen angels" at all. The gods collectively would find the concept of deicide very, very, very bad and that alone would be grounds for them banding together to curse/punish the transgressors and do their best to lock...
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    Excerpts: Angels

    I would think that as much as the gods might dislike each other, particularly when their portfolios and interests come into conflict, that the one thing they'd like even less is the idea of any of their servants getting the idea that rebelling against them is a good idea; or worse that killing...
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    Help Required - Design me a Skill Challenge

    1. "Injured old man" arrives in the village and uses a minor charm to convince the guard to let him in and escort him to the inn where he can "recover" but with no guards (that should be a red flag given their policy on strangers) because "he really is quite harmless". 2. The "old man" was seen...
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