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Why? I still play AD&D. I play AD&D with wife, kids, friends... I know AD&Ders all over the place. AD&D is not a "museum piece." It's a game that is still played by many people, and I'd wager, many people who do not give a flying crap about gaming forums, hipster nerdrage and all we're...

Yes. I hope it comes back.

You're right it's best to steer clear from these sorts of arguments/debates, because then we won't have finished in time for supper, as they say! ;) I think I get what you're saying in that we are seemingly speaking the same language and share some concerns of verisimilitude as far as the...

That's basically what I was trying to explain. I think BG gets it.

Welcome. I try to resist using this type of jargon because I think this is fundamentally divisive. I don't believe you (or me or anyone) are either a Simulationist OR a Narrativist OR a Gamist. I like to solve tactical situations in the game world as my character, I like to strategize and come...

It's one of my big problems with that iteration of the game. Basically you have game mechanics that make sense from a gamist and/or narrativist standpoint, and I wouldn't define myself as either of those types. I like immersion. I like to act as my character in a game world in motion that is...

These are two different things indeed. It's the difference between "I don't care for this game" and "this game went against many of the tropes and game play aspects of what I consider to be the core of the Dungeons & Dragons game, and I see that as a problem, because it changed my enjoyment of...

If I may answer that question, even though I'm obviously not Bedrockgames here. First caveat: you like whatever you like. This is not a pissing contest, and you play the games you enjoy. I'm fine with that. It's not because you enjoy some things I don't, or some things I would not consider...

Oh if you wonder what I voted I clicked a combination of "the new rules were not as good as the old" and "I fell in love with a particular edition" (though I wouldn't quite put it that way, which is what prompted me to write the previous post).

I started role-playing in the 1980's with First edition AD&D, started running games using the French edition of Das Schwarze Auge (The Dark Eye RPG, a German clone of the D&D Basic boxed set), and later ran and played dozens of different RPGs. Most notably? Call of Cthulhu, Stormbringer...

Except I'm not talking about a multi-system / dual-statting support system at all. Well then, let me tell you I get that you really, really, really don't like my idea, but just because you don't like it or don't see any way to make it work doesn't mean it can't, or won't be.

Ditto. I love and play a wide variety of games myself. Stormbringer, Hawkmoon, In Nomine Satanis/Magna Veritas, Nephilim, Scales, Mythus, LA, RuneQuest, Pendragon, Traveller, Shadowrun, Gamma World, Hurlements, Star Wars d6, RoleMaster, nearly all the World of Darkness games... my favorite games...

OD&D was supposed to function in conjunction with Chainmail. That's a part of the answer to your confusion, since the game assumed a familiarity with Chainmail rules and a wargame's referee mindset to begin with. Rules put aside, the main difference in what you are talking about is indeed, in...

4E is d20 at its core. All you got to do is find a way to emulate 4E by using the OGL/SRD itself while not infringing on WotC's copyright (which means some terms would not be used and replaced and so on). Which is totally possible, and has been done as you know with the other editions of the...

You're making a mistake in thinking that Rules Cyclopedia = OD&D (1974). These are not the same games. Rules Cyclopedia was published in 1991, and is the compilation of the Basic, Expert, Companion and Master rules which started to get published by TSR in 1983. Rules Cyclopedia... Comes...

Has never worked in the past? I'll give you one game that used this business model in the past. It had a simple core, playable in any number of ways. It had three classes, all weapons did d6 damage, some methodologies to build your dungeon and your wilderness settings. It was entirely contained...

Are we talking about the core-sans-modules, or the whole game including modules? I have nothing against options... as options. I think that's really what is not computing with me right now: the core of the game is supposed to be just that. The core of the game experience. Customization and...

Skills run contrary to archetype/class-based design. I don't need both. It's just redundant and makes the game more nitpicky for no reason that cannot be accounted for by my own adjudication of the game. I prefer players to describe what they do instead of looking at their character sheet to see...

Actually you can, yes. The only way for this to work as per stated intent of creating a game for all editions of D&D is to basically start from the start, leave that as the core-sans-modules of the game, and then propose modules to get the game play you want out of your game. This means that...

I like OD&D. I like AD&D. I like B/X D&D. Look into them. These games do not include Skills or Feats. These games are part of the core of D&D as well. NO, it would not help to rename these "talents" or "proficiencies". There's a reason I quit the d20 system entirely (i.e. alluding to Star Wars...