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Thanks, both of you, for the links! It got me going in the right direction to find the rest of the threads. Now I need to lie down and let my poor, abused eyes rest after reading through them... Still, from what I could gather it seems that what was most disastrous was that darn near everyone...

Stonegod, Covaithe, Phoenix8008, or Boddynock, can you point us in the direction of where the Living Enworld mega-adventure catastrophe is? I hunted some on my own, but without a point of reference it's looking for a needle in a haystack. I assume it's been archived at this point somewhere, but...

Whatever was in the hound's bite, it burned in Mesa's veins. He felt his animal nature coming upon him, his canines lengthening and his body gaining a much thicker coating of fur. His slightly heigtened senses made the poison coursing through him that much more potent and he dropped back on his...

You had to say it. "This fight is almost won." The only two phrases worse are "It can't get any worse" and "Trust me, we'll be fine." Now the floodgates are going to open up, and killer massive demonic zombies will pour out of a hole that tunnels to Hell itself... Mal, I'd like to resuggest...

I think that attack knocks me prone as well, right? So ongoing 5 puts me at bloodied, and I'm on the ground. I don't like this dog anymore... Mesa roared again, this time in pain, as the gravehound's head came forward and latched onto his thigh. It felt as though some of the unnatural energy...

As far as I can tell, that's where the 80% came from, for retiring folks only. I think this discussion is (and should be) separate from the time gold discussion. Covaithe later asked for a breakdown at higher levels (which I screwed up and took the thread off course in doing), but since he was...

Mesa grinned (well, as much as a panther can grin) as the genasi swordsman drew the gravehound's attention. Lunging forward, his claws bit deep into the gravehounds flank, carving away decaying flesh and hobbling the undead beast slightly. A blackish liquid flowed out of the wound, and after a...

I added it once after splitting the parcels by five (because at first I had made the mistake of adding it each level), but if you added it every level that would be four extra levels at level 5, which matches the differences perfectly. Not that it matters that much in the long run; even if you...

Mesa dodged aside, the gravehound's fangs crashing together only a few inches away from his bared arm. He laughed, his dodge carrying him back and to the left, away from the innocent beside him. "That's right, ye beast, follow me. Ignore the poor woman over there." Out of range momentarily, he...

Cast of Zombies and Crooks 1 Montroya (EvolutionKB) Deva Invoker 1 2 Matlal Atzintli (Ecce) Human Barbarian 1 3 Tor (powerofbaka), longtooth shifter ranger 1 4 Mesa (Stringbean2142) Razorclaw Shifter Druid 1 5 Jarel-karn (Velmont) , Genasi Swordmage 2 6 Andrec (Tomolak), Warlord 1

Mesa saw the deva fighting for his life, and a deep growl rumbled out of his throat. Springing forward, he caught the eye of the gravehound and pulled at its will. The gravehound fought against the pull but, was unable to resist the animal compulsion to come closer to Mesa. In his mind, Mesa...

Yep, forgot cover. But that -2 drops my 13 to an 11, which still hits the minion's reflex, right? And with the civilians as minions, my "push them away" is out... Whether that minion's still there or not determines my next action, so for now I'm waiting for a "yes" or "no" on crispy minion...

Mal, can you give us the civilian's stats as well? I'm not saying I'm planning on hittiing them or anything, but it's possible I may, inadvertently of course, hit them with a weak at-will that will push them away from the zombies, if they can take. Purely theoretically, as I said. ;)

I thought that at first, too, but there's no level 1 magic items in the parcels. If you put the 20% back, the amount I'm off before the fee is 400 gp. So it looks like I'm 100 gp less than JoeNotCharles per level of treasure. So here's what the DMG gives, what I get, and what I think...

Huh, yeah, that's my bad. The first bloody formula was off, which snowballed on me. What I get for doing it at work, I guess. Ignore the numbers I had befoire, way higher than they should have been. JoeNotCharles or someone else, can you check this before I run it for all levels? For level 5...

Yeah, I figured I had the time (read: was at work, bored out of my mind), so I might as well throw this together. Besides, this is what I do all day, anyway. At least this time it's calculating fund I might some day see (even in a fantasy situation, not someone else's money.

Mesa's world went topsy-turvy as a solid wall of people hit him. He rolled, up becoming down and all of it hurting. Finally, the tumbling stopped and he found he hadn't moved that far horizontally; instead, the crowd had ground him up like grist in a mill. "Go out into th' world, Mesa," he...

I'm throwing those numbers together now; didn't have my DMG at work to get the parcel amounts. Also, it looks like the combined value of level 1 and 2 parcels given above is missing the 1,040 monetary treasure, so if the numbers are a bit different, that may be where it's coming from. Once I...

Would we be implementing this for every level? I was under the impression we were just looking at level 2 and level 3 being unbalanced. If we're looking at every level, I'll throw together a spreadsheet here in a bit to compare current practice versus the proposed change at each level.

And the winner for most unlikely line to ever be uttered goes to...