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Level Up characters are, mathematically, probably a little stronger than 5.0 characters (though about on par with 5.5). The impression I'm getting from your post, however, is that that and the number of abilities are being counted as negatives. I see neither as such, so I'm not sure we're on the...

Too bad, I love that guy's work, pretty much his entire philosophy really.

I don't think you've hit the mark on what's bothering trad players here, but if you're right, maybe they just prefer a more casual, DIY style.

Yeah. That actually seems kinda harsh to me.

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I feel that, but I have a 12 and a 15 year old, so I have a hard time ignoring just how long ago the things I enjoy were made.

1976 here. Glad to know I'm "modern". Can you please let everyone else I know? They don't believe me.

This is in fact what I've been saying this entire time.

Level Up has a great Marshal class. Totally works with any version of 5e. https://a5e.tools/rules/marshal

But management in a publicly traded company doesn't get to choose a strategy that the investors don't think will make them the most money personally. That's the difference. No other consideration really matters.

It's a funny world, and I feel very differently about stories than I do about games.

Forever and always. Like it or not, the '90s now fall under the "classic" label.

The strategy they mandate is whatever makes them the most money, personally. The fact that they have this power without any required understanding of the product producing said money is, IMO, the actual problem here.

Maybe so, but no official source is going to say it's not doing well (unless it absolutely tanks and they have to), to be fair.

The investors during the 4e era didn't seem to change their mind.

I didn't say it was evidence. I said it was a question. You're welcome to not care about it. I have no horse in this race, really. Just a little bored and the topic seemed interesting.

I often forget about published adventures. I never buy them. The stuff I buy is also the stuff most likely to have compatibility problems.

A lot of trad folks don't think about their play with the deep introspection and dissection the Narrativists seem to favor. That should be ok. Have you noticed how defensive the trad folks are in this thread? It's because IMO they are being attacked.

You're trying to convince people that they're beliefs and preferences are wrong. I don't see anyone doing that to the Narrativists. Who's the aggressor here?

You're welcome to think so. Seems to me there's a lot of "I just want to have a good time" out there.