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    Do YOU nod to "realism"?

    One solution is to have elves, dragons, etc exist mostly as superstition until one decade they actually immigrating to the human world (thru gates from the feywild, shadowfell, and beyond). Until that point, human civilization could have evolved "normally" without the interference of non-humans...
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    Do YOU nod to "realism"?

    I agree... at least one argument to reboot expectations is that magic and sorcery evens the playing field against those who are physically stronger and larger. If "faux-Europe" also means a fantasy world with analogs to historical cultures, I actually think it can be done well. At least one...
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    Legends and Lore - Nod To Realism

    Agreed. If I've learned anything on Enworld and Legends and Lore, it's that D&D isn't going back to a crunch-heavy RAW core in the foreseeable future. So under a theoretical 4.5E or 5E "fire" keyword entry, I'd like to see: Core/tactical/tournament play: For simplicity and game balance...
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    Legends and Lore - Nod To Realism

    But I never suggested side explanations of every nuance of its use. Whatever solution you use now in 4E when a player wants to do something the power doesn't explicitly cover. But my suggestion empowers DMs and players to use their imagination to handle it. You don't agree that it's good to word...
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    Legends and Lore - Nod To Realism

    Why doesn't the game encourage the DM *more* to do that, by listing fireball as causing x damage in a burst (with no mention of creatures). Then maybe a separate "fire" entry which states that "For game balance purposes, we suggest fire causes damage to creatures only, but may affect objects...
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    Legends and Lore - Nod To Realism

    I don't know, but it seems to be a common playstyle. If D&D was a game for hippies and revolutionaries, I am sure it wouldn't be so common. But D&D seems to be a game where many groups play by the RAW and take the metagame very seriously as well. I think part of that has to do with a general...
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    Legends and Lore - Nod To Realism

    I didn't find the previous reference to a torch, but think it really depends on the wording of the rule. 1) Torches = 1d4 fire damage to 1 creature 2) Torches = 1d4 fire damage Why must the fireball specify x damage to all creatures in a burst, instead of x damage in a burst? I suppose it...
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    Legends and Lore - Nod To Realism

    Um, because traditional fantasy doesn't have low level heroes insulting oozes to shake the comsos because Juiblex the minor demon prince is simultaneously listening for insults thru oozes from Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged? Or to put it another way, why does a rule that is oblivious to...
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    Got your soul!

    The last half of this thread has some ideas.
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    Legends and Lore - Nod To Realism

    I was curious about this too, so I had put a poll here. Too bad I screwed up the poll a bit. Any ideas how to create a new poll with the right wording that will give the most meanigful result?
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    Do YOU nod to "realism"?

    I know, I wish I could edit the poll. I would have added: I play 4E and, n/a, powers are always "realistic" to me I do NOT play 4E, and n/a, powers are always "realistic" to me
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    Legends and Lore - Nod To Realism

    A man who can kill with a plasma rifle is a fighter. See how I can compare apples to oranges? Unless you've played D&D like a greek myth, you're mixing up 2 different mediums.
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    Do YOU nod to "realism"?

    To make the results more useful, I wanted to sort out those who play 4E from those who don't, instead of making assumptions one way or another.
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    Legends and Lore - Nod To Realism

    That's not true. Earthworms are surely not sentient, but they can move, sense, and exhibit all sorts of sophisticated behavior. AIs too. There's a good sci-fi novel about an alien species that turned out to be non-sentient yet exhibited extremely high intelligence, I forget the name. There's an...
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    Do YOU nod to "realism"?

    Inspired by this thread, I thought it would be interesting to find out -- have you ever refrained from using a 4E power (even though it was perfectly valid action according to the rules) because you thought the effect wouldn't be "realistic" in the fiction? For example, you decided not to...
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    Legends and Lore - Nod To Realism

    See post 226. I think you are mistaking intelligence for sentience/self-awareness. They're not the same. Robots have intelligence but not self-awareness. You have to be self-aware to understand an insult.
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    Legends and Lore - Nod To Realism

    So you allow bards to use vicious mockery on chairs? After all, the chairs are mindless and have no resistance/immunity to charms or psychic damage, and a cracked or exploding chair seems like a perfectly reasonable reaction to psychic damage. Really, how far are players willing to go to...
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    Legends and Lore - Nod To Realism

    I'm not sidestepping. In this thread, I've seen several references to myths without accounting for PC level, and I find it erroneous. It doesn't imply 1st level characters at all. Hercules is clearly given as an example of what fighters can achieve when they get high enough level... something to...
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    Legends and Lore - Nod To Realism

    I understand the referencing to great figures in mythology as a source of inspiration, but those heroes are unique and usually epic in scale. To translate those myths into low to mid level powers is, I think, to diminish what makes the original source so compelling. I'd rather see a fighter...
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    Legends and Lore - Nod To Realism

    Sorry, it doesn't fly with me whatsoever that the oozes have an existential connection to Juiblex. If Juiblex is killed or imprisoned, all the oozes of multiple worlds live on just fine. If a bard insults Juiblex, the demon lord isn't listening and the ooze doesn't care or understand. Animated...
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