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    We're back to AD&D1

    I'm not going to question your recollection, but I see this a lot: "That's what hundreds/thousands/millions of people said about [prior version]" - - I guess if I multiply [topics being complained about] times [prior versions that came out for discussion], it seems like there must be no...
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    EOM - 4th Edition Compatibility?

    Actually, now I'm hoping that the Ranger moves over to True20...I just started with that, and the coolness of that combined with my horrible reaction to KOTS has driven me into the loving arms of T20. I'm still not clear on how to make True20 and EoM play nice, so if someone can point me in the...
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    KOTS: The After Action Report

    Thanks for the review - - I've been going back and forth on 4e, and since I had a bunch of store credits from trading in old gaming books from the 80's, one of the things I picked up was KOTS. First note that I have NOT played it yet...just read through it. I agree with a lot in this review...
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    D&D 4E How do you feel right now about 4e?

    I agree with the need to avoid hate, but people involved with 3.x now are reasonably upset about 4th edition, not because it makes 3.x explode or vanish, but because it is likely/certain that resources that would have continued to work on cool new stuff for 3.0/3.5 will now be used on 4th...
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    Interesting experience playing KotS

    Not to be a jerk here, but there's an almost [insert your least favorite politician] level of ambiguity on the HOW. I understand WHAT - - the fights all have different flavor, but I'm not sure I get how they are that much different that 3e. Actually, I should probably rephrase this: Are they...
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    True20 and Eom

    Back in 2005, if I'm reading correctly, RangerW was looking at ways to use EoM with the True20 system...on a lot of different sites I see a lot of abandoned threads about this, but no really clear answers. Has no one used True20 with EoM? I'm wondering things like: 1) Would you use the...
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    D&D 4E Will the 4E classes be deliberately unbalanced to get players to read?

    Torchlyte - -maybe where I'm having the biggest problem with you personally, which impacts my ability to see your argument, is your insistence on using the word 'suck', which to me is normally associated with more of a nasty argument than a discussion - the problem may entirely be mine, as I'm...
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    D&D 4E Will the 4E classes be deliberately unbalanced to get players to read?

    But does all of this, to take the argument of people I don't necessarily agree with, move it even more to a board/miniatures/card game? (risking flame war here, sorry) And I think the problem with the chess analogy is that to really preserve balance, in the combat part of the game everyone is...
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    D&D 4E Will the 4E classes be deliberately unbalanced to get players to read?

    Well, I think that most folks here are pretty reasonable - - I guess perhaps my biggest concern is that the things you're discussing have NEVER been a problem in my 3.x games - no one has been left out, those who stink at combat still have a ball, etc. It's possible as I mentioned that I've...
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    D&D 4E Will the 4E classes be deliberately unbalanced to get players to read?

    Again, a great deal of agreement with Lord T. I think the basis of my issue is still the insistence that being a bit awkward or out of sorts in a combat situation is some problem that needed to be resolved in 4E.
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    D&D 4E Will the 4E classes be deliberately unbalanced to get players to read?

    Don't disagree with any of this as to intent...just feel that it tends to make things a bit...monochromatic? and less interesting TO ME (shame I have to specify this - isn't all of this just my opinion, and nothing for others to get up in arms about?)... We're in a cave of pure ice - everyone...
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    D&D 4E Will the 4E classes be deliberately unbalanced to get players to read?

    Wow, not sure where this is coming from. Actually I do, but I'd hate to assume things about you - right now, my assumption would have to be that you assume that D&D is nothing but a combat simulator (which maybe it will be in 4E, don't have the books in front of me). But there is a huge gulf...
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    D&D 4E Will the 4E classes be deliberately unbalanced to get players to read?

    I'm not sure if you didn't understand me, or if you're just having fun...I don't believe I said I wanted a character that doesn't 'contribute in a fight'....I said I wanted to play a character that was no good at combat. Yes, if 4E makes it so everyone is good at combat, I could opt to not...
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    D&D 4E Will the 4E classes be deliberately unbalanced to get players to read?

    I guess that's where I wasn't being clear on my shifting of more responsibility onto the DM. During the combats, if I know that a PC will be present who is weaker in combat, I will provide either some lesser part of the combat for them to participate in, or I will provide a sideline activity...
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    D&D 4E Will the 4E classes be deliberately unbalanced to get players to read?

    ..and to clarify...I do NOT think that the game should be designed so that players who learn about obscure feat #234 from the Book of Ultimate Broken Feats and Mayhem should have characters that put all other characters to shame. I just see it as a manageable flaw in 3.5 - - not enough to toss...
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    D&D 4E Will the 4E classes be deliberately unbalanced to get players to read?

    I guess where our opinions differ is here: some of my players WANT to play characters that are 'combat disadvantaged'...again, I freely admitted that this is what might make my group atypical. I don't think DMPCs should be used to do interesting things if a PC would be interested in playing...
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    D&D 4E Will the 4E classes be deliberately unbalanced to get players to read?

    I guess this is further evidence that I am weird. For me D&D is cooperative - not only cooperation between the players, but cooperation between players and DM to have a good time. I've played with players who felt like it was a competition for most powerful PC, and I've played with DMs who...
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    GSL FAQ up

    To keep this interesting civil discourse going, I need to point out that I am NOT calling for his or her firing. But that is only because I am one of those people who believes that they HAD discussions, that the GSL was ambiguous, and that there were disputes at WOTC about what it meant. I...
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    GSL FAQ up

    I don't think we disagree all that much, but perhaps - - I don't read evil intent, I simply believe that the end result of actions, taken for legitimate business purposes and without ill intent, can lead to bad things for 3pps....and of course even that is likely moot when I think about it...
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    GSL FAQ up

    Good point...or maybe not. Me no work so good with my word usements sometimes - - I should have said 'absolute about some things'...or probably more correctly 'absolute about some things' - -also, there was a posted reply about 'bait and switch' - - while I can't say they are NOT thinking this...
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