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    In game romantic relationship

    I would like to point out that if I read that description of the nature of the relationship properly, then OF COURSE the players listen intently...particularly if the other players are guys. "For years I've read your Dragon magazine, but never believed the letters..but I recently had an...
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    In game romantic relationship

    This was back around 9th grade, back in the early 80s...simple answer is that I didn't...didn't realize it until too late, and it ruined the campaign And of course because my gaming group were largely puerile buffoons, a decision was made - -"No more girls at the gaming table"...((Sarcasm)...
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    4E being immune to criticism (forked from Sentimentality And D&D...)

    This is a tough one for me...does the femoral artery (if present in the creature under consideration) count as 'vitals'?...you get cut well enough there and you die quick. I think if you can reach an artery (DM's discretion), you can sneak attack....and if hit points are not just wounds (oh...
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    In game romantic relationship

    I've been DMing for just about 30 years - - you'll have to decide if that's 30 years of experience, or just one year thirty times, but here goes: Romance between NPC and PC: fine. Romance between PCs: At BEST neutral to the game, but far more likely to be disruptive or deadly to the...
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    4E being immune to criticism (forked from Sentimentality And D&D...)

    Absolutely. I just think that people get upset when they feel that their poison doesn't do it for someone else. And my poison selection is not set in stone, but changes with the mood/campaign I'm in. I could get into playing some superheroic fighter too...I just do it in a different campaign.
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    4E being immune to criticism (forked from Sentimentality And D&D...)

    I don't disagree that anyone who posts in these deals is swept up in this 'war', which is a rather grand term for a bunch of folks arguing about Dungeons and Dragons...it's as noble a war as a battle between Deep Space Nine and Enterprise fans...or maybe as ultra-hip-and-cool as a 700+ page...
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    4E being immune to criticism (forked from Sentimentality And D&D...)

    Wow...after finally reading this whole thread all you can contribute is an incorrectly-typed insult?
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    4E being immune to criticism (forked from Sentimentality And D&D...)

    Can I at least assume that you accept the possibility that there are people who don't lose sleep over 'fiddling details', and still find that 4E is not at all the best RPG system they've come across?
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    4E being immune to criticism (forked from Sentimentality And D&D...)

    I think the 'making a castle move' example IS a bit silly...and MAYBE the 'using it on some creature that doesn't move' is extending it too far...but maybe not, and it's part of the oddness. I have heard people supporting the CAGI thing say that ONE way of interpreting it is that opponents...
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    4E being immune to criticism (forked from Sentimentality And D&D...)

    And I apologize if I've implied that I somehow HATE 4e...I don't have enough spare energy to use up on hating something like a game system. It just doesn't really appeal to me for use in my current campaign because of things like we're discussing. It should also be noted that I don't play 3e...
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    4E being immune to criticism (forked from Sentimentality And D&D...)

    Generally speaking, I've noticed that on the internet when someone attempts to preempt the counterpoint in their own post, that counterpoint is often very reasonable, which is why the attempt to block it in advance is made. That seems to be the case here.
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    4E being immune to criticism (forked from Sentimentality And D&D...)

    Dominate Person, IIRC, allowed a saving throw...it also did not work on the mindless. So is it really waving it away to say that a power that in the past allowed a save, was influenced by the nature and statistics of the foe, AND was described as magic is not comparable to a power that ignores...
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    4E being immune to criticism (forked from Sentimentality And D&D...)

    If I combine your thoughts with the DM option to (perhaps FREQUENTLY) disallow the power, or allow NPC #32 to ignore it, then it becomes workable. My issue is just primarily that I am opposed to 'zapping' PCs powers at the risk of making something they've 'spent' a power slot on less valuable...
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    4E being immune to criticism (forked from Sentimentality And D&D...)

    Wow...how did you get that from what I typed?...forgive me if I was unclear...I had no problem with it in Earthdawn because the world was entirely magical - - that's what you bought into when you played Earthdawn - -that your campaign would be infused with mystical abilities in all classes. So...
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    Trust THE COMPUTER. THE COMPUTER is your friend.

    I wouldn't necessarily equate latest to greatest...I played the first edition and loved it..the last one I played (not sure which version)? Not so much. If you can get the first one cheap for me that was just fine and dandy.
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    D&D 4E 4e Hitpoints are modelled after quantum mechanics

    Most of the actual scientists 'USED' in this movie (in many senses of the word 'used') have disavowed the way their quotes were used and the conclusions that were drawn - - basically the movie suggests that using TM will allow you to collapse waveforms favorably...It's just goofy. However, the...
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    Trust THE COMPUTER. THE COMPUTER is your friend.

    Won't this be fun! You will find it fun! Echoing many of the thoughts here, some memorable events from Paranoia games past (some of this might have been from published modules - I was only a lowly player clone) 1) Have a robot that will actually give one answer to a PC, and a different...
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    4E being immune to criticism (forked from Sentimentality And D&D...)

    You're kind of flipping the argument in a direction I don't think I ever suggested (a bit strawman-y, to be Whedonesque). Even CAGI could happen in the real world - I taunt everyone and they all rush me. I don't know that I've ever suggested that it could NEVER happen....you are using your...
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    4E being immune to criticism (forked from Sentimentality And D&D...)

    Wow...seems like a major attempt to shut down debate. Note: When you point out something that others are doing and then say 'We're all better than that', you're really saying that YOU are better than the others, sort of 'above the fray'. I'm enjoying reading most of this discussion...
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    4E being immune to criticism (forked from Sentimentality And D&D...)

    That's one of my favorite stories quoted above, by the way. Your last paragraph is pretty much a spot-on description of how I want my campaigns to work. Which leads to my issues with 4e and my world - - the CAGI Effect/Mystical everything, and even things like how 'beefy' and combat-ready all...
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