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I wanna play a support role (not bardish/roguish) I do still want to be as versatile as possible with full BAB and as much spell casting as I can get. All 6 players are supposed build 5th level Gestalt PCs but NOT talk back and forth during Chargen. SO, we show up not knowing what everyone...

Got a source or did you make it up? If So, consider it stolen

Yeah, it is tough to get the skills you need at times, guess I will just stick with the above.

Good Point. So, I could just say that the PCs ability to interrogate someone is the average of his Intimidate and Gather Info Skill levels. Or Dip/GI. Could also make it class skill with a simple write up. I will have to ponder this one for a few days.

I have been looking for a consolidated list of skills on the net without much success except for Core and SRD. What I am looking for is Interrogation. Perhaps there isn't one and I will have to make on up. Perhaps a combination of Intimidate and Gather Information? Or maybe Bluff thrown into...

Or, if any of you remember my thread on making an all draconic NPC party, don't screw with the racial levels just take the template. If you as well pick carefully the race you apply it to you can come up with as strong as a (already existing) class as you will. A simple example is a half...

Of Course if the level of Diplomacy you are looking for isn't that important and you have a feat available you could take the Able Learner feat from Races of Destiny. It allows you to buy cross class feat at standard 1 rank per skill point spent. HOWEVER, it does not allow you to go over the...

I never had Spelljammer so I used Astral travel to get the PCs from Oerth to Krynn to Faerun, ect. I did use the etheral plane as travel within the "Current" Prime Material Plane. Got some limited use out of the Elemental planes as well.

Actaully, I came back from my usual weekend fishing trip a few hours early and caught her in bed with my best freind.

Oh, I think it's safe to say I will have to sit with the group and play this one out for a few sessions. Of course they won't know that I am what I am until I quit and flip him to NPC status :devil: They actually need an extra fighter right now. In the world we are working up Dueling is a...

I can roleplay the character easy enough. I am co-dming sort of (she runs everything and is creating a fresh world as she goes). I am creating/running the NPCs while I figure this out. Played ODD, 1e, 2e as well but mostly Traveller (my personal fav) and BECMI for a loooong time. I just need...

Yeah, not only did I get better rolls this time, but you were right on with your suggested placements. Thanx DARN! oh well, I needed at least 1 level of bard anyway so he could pretend that too. Basically every other class is provided for, especially after enough Chameleon levels to fake two...

Funny thing, both links point to "Being Bane"

One thing I didn't do was put the Ability Modifiers to the skills (who me, I don't need any practice, just a kick in the head). Now this is what I get: Ok, Lets Build the Character Sanstilikus Male Doppleganger Bard 1/Chameleon 10/Mind Spy 5/Masterspy 7 STR 11+2=13(+1) DEX 14+2=16(+3) CON...

Allright already, I will reroll it ONCE. make me work harder why don't you ;);) Okay, that gives me a 17, 16, 14, 14, 11, 9 (this time I rerolled 1s, My die roller don't let me do that) and threw away a nine. Since @kitcik : says Int>Cha>Con>Dex>Str>Wis that is what I will do INT 17+2=19...

kitcik: Thanks, now I don't have to bore everyone with huge blocks of text. I didn't even consider that (we don't use point buy, we use 4d6 Drop low X 7 drop low arrange to suit) and has I said these are all NPCs so I really can do whatever. I just am still figuring out 3.5 (comes from...

Since it is an NPC I can just do it arbitrarily but I am trying to practice at the same time. kitcik: What Minimums? and someone please tell me the spoiler tags for this board.

Yeah, Maybe, but... Ok, Lets Build the Character Sanstilikus Male Doppleganger Bard 1/Chameleon 10/Mind Spy 5/Masterspy 7 STR 10+2=12(+1) DEX 12+2=14(+2) CON 11+2=14(+2)+1@12th INT 14+2=16(+3) WIS 12+4=16(+3) CHA 11+2=14(+2)+1@8th Has Doppleganger He gets 35 skill points, 2 feats, 4d8...

Doppelganger Bard/Chamelion/Mind Spy/SpyMaster Build 4d6 drop lowest times 7 drop lowest= (threw away a 10) 14 11 11 12 10 13 Okay, where to put them. Chameleon use arcane spells as Wizard so INT is Important divine spells as cleric so WIS is Important Dexterity is important for the Rogue...

Jimlock: I think I may be mixing Chameleon and Mindspy now that I have considered the combo. Thanael: I think your right about not needing 5 levels, the Doppleganger gets 7x(2+Int Mod) for starting skills. And thanks for the links. Actually after rereading the Chameleon PrC, I do believe...