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I have not just made the assertion, I have built a case for my position. And I have managed to do it without being insulting. You disagree, and maybe in your games the spread doesn't work, because you rely more heavily on team work. Again, this all depends on how you play the game. Not all...

This is how I do things as well. It makes individual character creation choices matter more. And it mixes things up a bit. I think this is a fundamental difference in approach between 3E and 4E. The former places more stock in individual characters, and the later places it in team work...

I think for people who prefer ranks, it is a matter of controlling your skill level in each skill. I may really want a few +10s, a +5, a couple of +7s, a +8, some +3s, etc. When it comes to 4E, my gripe is the number of skills (not everyone prefers consolidation), and the lack of a point buy...

No it isn't. And I demonstrated that to you in my previous post. Just saying it is so; doesn't make it so. Again it depends on how important skills are in the game, and how often individual successes are important. I just don't see the math you are talking about here. For every post where...

I prefer investigations and puzzles over straight combat. It isn't that I don't like combat, but I like my battles to have significance, and I find I am that too many battles takes away from this. An adventure that involves mystery, exploration, research, sneaking around that culminates in a big...

I have to disagree. It doesn't suck to have a bunch of 7s over nearly half as many 13s, if you want a character who is skilled in a bunch of things. Leaving out the key attribute, that is a +7 on a d20 roll, which is not bad at all. Also, it isn't a choice between all 7s or all 14s. If my...

I don't take skills I don't plan on using. If I make a character with loads of skills, it is becuase he is going to be using them. If you only plan on using spell craft, then it makes sense to maximize. But if you plan on doing lots of different things with your character, a diverse range of...

This just doesn't match the reality. I have played tons of characters in 3E with skills spread out and it works just fine. Lets say you 40 ranks to spread and can max at 5. You could take 5 in eight skills. That works, and it is nice to have eight fully maxed skills. Or you could, if you want a...

But it isn't sub optimal. It works very well to spread skills out. You don't have to take a 2 in everthing if that is too low for you. You can take some 5s, some 4s, some 6s and some 7s. This isn't sub optimal. It makes perfect mechanical sense. Especially if the party member splits and...

But it isn't sub optimal. It works very well to spread skills out. You don't have to take a 2 in everthing if that is too low for you. You can take some 5s, some 4s, some 6s and some 7s. This isn't sub optimal. It makes perfect mechanical sense. Especially if the party m

1) that is the players' choice. If they want to max their skills, they should be able to, and I have no problem with that. 2) This again, boils down to player choice. 3) This is the fault of the GM. In the games I have played in and run, relying on one person to suceed for the whole party has...

i agree with you there. I don't think you should rig skill tests so everyone has the same chance of success. I want the guy who spent skill points on the skill to benefit. What too many GMs do is see skill checks as a make or break moment in the adventure. If you have designed a scenario with a...

Except he is still allowing for failure to happen, just suggesting making it not a make or break thing. At some point, you have to tailor adventures to the party and their skills. What is being argued is it is less fun for some if everyone 18th level guy who took diplomacy is basically the same...

No. I have been in groups that do this. But sometimes you want more skills than that. You may want to make a character who has more of his bases covered.

then i think he should have paid more attention to my earlier argument about make or break skill checks and party success v. individual success. Everything is different when the group succeeds as a whole because of one persons success or failure; but that doesn't mean the whole party has to...

Umm. No it doesn't. You have announced a conclusion, without making a real case for it. And the vague case you made was loaded with assumptions. As if yopuu can prove that my experience of the 3e skill system must match yours. I have been playing role playing games for over fifteen years, and...

I think the key to making prestige classes work (in old shool campaigns or regular ones) is to keep restrict them to GM approval, which is how they are supposed to be used. Just because a prestige class exists, that doesn't mean it has to be available in your campaign. You need to make sure the...

I think this boils down to respect. Having respect for the other side to form its own opinions.

I think I addressed most of your concerns in my previous post (above), but this one is important. If you are facing a skill roll that is a life/death situation and it hinges on rolling well, of course you will seek an alternate path. And on those rolls I wouldn't put all my eggs into two ranks...

Every group is different. And everyone takes home a different impression of each edition. In my group, this would be considered metagaming, and I would ask the party to keep it in character. Even if they persist in metagaming though, you need to spice it up. Sometimes the guy with the highest...