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  1. FrogReaver

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Assuming it is just an ‘intricate countdown clock’, does being that preclude it from simulating something?
  2. FrogReaver

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    5e surprise is determined purely fictionally???
  3. FrogReaver

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Fair enough. I assumed more nuance to you position than exists. That wasn’t on my bingo card. So what would you call a style where the GM creates the fictional world but doesn’t guide the fiction? Half GM driven?
  4. FrogReaver

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    The fireball can have save for half because it’s not calling that a miss. I’m not opposed to adding glancing blows that deal some damage in. I’m opposed to calling such things misses. On the same token I would call a glancing blow that doesn’t cause any damage a miss. So yea, glancing blow...
  5. FrogReaver

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Well no. Not hitting the target number on the DC can mean whatever the game says. Calling that a miss when it’s really a glancing blow is the problem here in my estimation. It’s part of my general problem with narrativists ignoring the clear meaning of words and treating them like game terms...
  6. FrogReaver

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I don’t have a problem with the dm changing dc based on who is doing the action though.
  7. FrogReaver

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I think most are coupling the interpretative part into this. There is a difference or at least potentially so there. A miss entails something different than you are in the area so will be hit but can potentially maneuver to take less of the hit.
  8. FrogReaver

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Okay. I’m not ready to commit but let’s explore this. Skill with thieves tools means both skill at picking locks and skill at being silent with them. Then we need some way to differentiate the possible outcomes of pick the lock only but make noise, stay silent while attempting to pick but don’t...
  9. FrogReaver

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I think it’s also a problem if the failed lockpicking roll draws attention while the success does not. A separate stealth roll should ideally be employed to determine the noise. I’m interested in this part. I’ve been under the impression that all sim play was to some degree about an...
  10. FrogReaver

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    That doesn’t appear to align with your other statement. I think maybe reframe what you mean as your current explanations are leading to confusion and I don’t think it’s just me.
  11. FrogReaver

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    How there was a complication determined matters (this is the heart of sim play). We aren’t opposed to the general notion of cooks being in houses. We aren’t opposed to the general notion of sounds drawing the cooks attention. But if your lockpicking check as opposed to your stealth check causes...
  12. FrogReaver

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I assumed by roll under you meant roll under your stat or similar. I wouldn’t like that. If it’s just roll under vs roll over and all else the same I don’t care either way.
  13. FrogReaver

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    That framing makes it worse from the d&d sim perspective IMO.
  14. FrogReaver

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I don’t think that’s nearly nuanced enough.
  15. FrogReaver

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Because telling people they have a reflexive defense isn’t one of the most offensive things you can do…
  16. FrogReaver

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Then take mine as challenging the arbitrariness of your comparative class.
  17. FrogReaver

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Unless the complication is dependent on time or something the experts expertness might impact related to the complication. But otherwise yes.
  18. FrogReaver

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Yea. There’s alot of nuance here and we are just scratching the surface. And it’s also different for each person. But we aren’t trying to generate a fully unified theory that all sim oriented people are the same so everyone having some differences is okay. We are trying to talk mostly in...
  19. FrogReaver

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    As far as I could tell your statement didn’t include any comparison class.
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