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Yeah..sure. I don't want your seasoned broth pre-loaded into the pot everyone has to cook with.

Asked and answered a dozen times by dozens of people. I'm not going to repeat that loop with you.

I'm fine with clarity existing at the table level. Heck, I'm great with it. Make magic in your worlds feel exactly how you want it to feel for your players. I don't need the game to do that. I just need the game to provide mechanics for cool (maybe magic, maybe not) stuff for the PCs to do.

My personal feeling is that tables are capable of figuring that stuff out on their own if they need it. And that whatever they figure out will be better for the table than what the game designers can provide.

The problem, for me, is that you (general) appear to want a definition in the game. Adding such a definition to the game crowds out the alternative, and equally viable definitions. It is subtraction by addition, which is why I'm not interested.

Sure they are. If it doesn't have a magical explanation, they don't think it should be possible So we either provide an explanation we do not think is necessary for the game (and, quite frankly, that is often eschewed in genre literature). Or it can't happen. "You want martials with abilities...

Some people seem to need it in every place that isn't explicitly called out. Taken to the logical limit, if no differences are explicitly called out then the fantasy world should be a perfect simulation of our own. For ubiquitous convenience.

First, just wanna make sure you know that I'm not offended. Apologies if the tone of my post gave off that vibe. Fantasy/Real world similarity isn't a bad thing. "Upset" may not be exactly the right word..or maybe I didn't convey my meaning quite right there. The point is, when you encounter...

I'm not sure anyone has proposed a full departure from real world similarity so much as removing the need to use it as a measure for what can or cannot be included in a fantasy roleplaying game. As I said. It is a convenience when fantasy worlds adhere to our real world expectations...

You prefer your games to have an adversarial relationship with the concept of fantasy (it's gotta be RW or give me the receipts). For those of us who signed up to participate in the fantasy rather than audit it, this is gonna seem pretty contrarian. In fairness..in this particular topic...

Sorry.. had to fix this.

That they share features with the real world is a convenience, not a feature of the genre. It isn't necessarily a bad thing when it happens. But when it doesn't happen, you don't have good cause to get upset. You knew (or should have known) what you were getting into based on where you were in...

Not what I said. What I said is that 100% of fantasy settings will differ from the real world*. This is not the same as saying that everything in those settings will differ. * - Technically, I said the "vast majority" because I was using your words but I don't really need the qualification...

So..you brought up naval combat..see?

Maybe..I guess. To prove your "true statement", we have to go through all of your experience, build a comprehensive set of characteristics about the real world and the fantasy settings you've experienced, and run some kind of compare and contrast. Frankly, I wouldn't be that confident in your...

I believe you said that you expect Real World Earth unless stated otherwise, no?

Any fantastical thing they include without an explanation falls under exactly that definition.

It isn't all or nothing. It's that Game of Thrones ends up in the fantasy section of the bookstore because it has dragons, frozen zombies and such. Not because it faithfully simulates the hazards of real world naval combat. If you're expecting a faithful representation of naval combat, maybe...

A lot of that is mirrored by unexplained fantasy stuff. How do Dwarves live so long? Where do gods come from? Why does magic exist? This varies from author to author of course. The PHB has a ton of it though.

Do you think Low Fantasy and High Fantasy as descriptors has happened by accident? Do you think they are equivalent?