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You're arguing with a strawman. I never said the goal is to constantly chasing the most recent events. It's the notion of an ongoing story, a living world, that's important to me. Up-to-date CSGs are just a tool to ease the way for new fans and being helpful compendiums. Your argument that a...

Yeah I came into that conclusion too. It's just not worth the time and energy to try to convince the other side, because we're speaking about personal tastes, not objective "what is better" truths. If some people here would acknowledge that... In the end, I think there will always be a schism...

If that'd be that easy! Sadly, Hungary is just too small a market now to sustain viable rpg publishing. It's a bit complicated, since back in the day we had several native rpgs, translated ones and stuff, but then a bunch of social and economical things happened and now, we have nothing new in...

Oh, the good 'ol mid/late-2000s, when I could do that and find all the 3e and Masquerade books in major bookshop lines and in Hungarian (or at least the ones which came out in my language, but still)!

They're doing exactly what you wrote about the Lost Ark. The stories, be they as epic as they are sometimes, don't really change the overall setting in big ways. I know about the AP connections, but they are very minor, more just connections, really, than a metaplot. Despite nearly a decade...

I understand it. There are definitely plus sides of a constant zero-year setting. However, an ongoing setting has it's own merits and not least of them is, yes, maintaining long-term interest outside the actual home game. I don't like every part of FR, or WoD metaplot, but it helped a LOT to...

It's not about putting famous npcs into the campaigns. It's about updating the setting and making stories outside the campaigns 8novels, comics, whatever), or campaigns/adventures which are part of a larger story and working the changes into the setting. Again, the notion of a living world...

All to its own. That I got a living world and, again, novels to read when not gaming always outweighted the constraints. But again, I am and always was a CWoD guy. NWoD has great ideas, but I kept going back to CWoD because of the feeling and the story. Erin Evans' books did a great job to get...

So, in the quest for making it a true generic fantasy dropback setting for home games and not wanting to overwhelm poor new gamers, they killed FR as an interesting living world. Sad. Because, in my opinion, that was what made FR interesting, the story and characters, the notion of a detailed...

Oh, I agree. I'd be happy for a new FRCG, but I don't think it's a necessity either, just like you. However, I do think thank there would be a lot of ways to officially updating the setting (POD/pdfs, for example), besides cramming info into the campaign books (while completely neglecting the...

Well said. I suspect a lot of people who are arguing about how obsolete would be a new FRCG or such product are just don't like metaplot as a thing or FR itself (at least partly because of the existence of said metaplot), so they just don't care and don't want it. Go for Candlekeep and ask what...

I know it's a frequent viewpoint on these boards ( as in "no settings, no metaplot, please"), from certian people, but I disagree. Detailed settings and ongoing metaplot might be more restrictive (not necessarily), but it provides a lot of stuff for making one person interested in the game and...

Okay, just to make it clear: "evil corporate overlords" is just irony/jest on my part. They are 'probably' not evil, they're just a big company, with different goals and expectations than a smaller, ttrpg specialized one and that comes with certain implications, which results in a not-ideal...

That's true, but I maintain my opinion that they have to play very-very safe, because of the overlords and because of those overlords misguided expectations about 4e, that restrict possible content. Yes, smaller companies could and did go that way, but there are a lot of smaller companies who...

I didn't say anything about the quantity (although I do think it's myopic at this level - there's a lot of stages between the level of output now and the bloat of earlier times and they didn't hit the sweet spot for me). I'm speaking about the kind of content we got this far. The two are...

I see. Of course, these things are highly about personal expectations and opinions. I don't think absolutes apply there, like 'it's always bad/good". So, while I agree with CapnZapp, from my personal standpoint, I don't think one model is objectively better, as long as there are people who like...

I think you misunderstood the argument. I didn't say it's a bad edition, because of evil corporate overlords. I has nothing to do with the quality of the rules, for example, or one's interests in a specific ruleset. It's a good edition. It's surely a lot of people's favorite edition, like yours...

Except, a lot of small companies are able to put out a lot more content, not just Paizo. WotC's approach is rather quite unique, I might say. Paizo is doing their thing for a lot of years now and I hope they will be able to do it further. Also, I don't think that, at this point, Paizo's...

The difference is that smaller, rpg-focused companies, who want to make the rpg and don't have to meet some profit margin from above, are able to make the products I want to buy. Novels, setting books, player content, all the stuff, so, for me they're making a better product, hence ttrpgs are...

I'm with CapnZapp on this. Everything I saw says that ttrpgs are just better off with dedicated, smaller ttrpg-focused companies, than in the hands of big corps. Of course, it's highly personal what one wants to see from a ttrpg line as products. Smaller companies (yes, even Paizo in this...