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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    This is a super interesting post! Thanks for describing your process and the tools you're using in detail like this. I can see you've put a lot of work into your game/setting to create this web you can assess and use easily in play, and the "most interesting given what the players are trying to...
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    Dungeon World Gets New Owners, Second Edition Planned

    I almost wish they'd do an A/B test of Harm Track vs Conditions Track with some new PBTA players coming from 5e and see which clicks better. I've been running FITD games for folks coming exclusively from modern narrative-focused 5e play, and the numerical Harm track was very easy for them to...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I’m not sure I understand how these techniques are analogous at all? A clock can be used to measure the progress of a variety of things, but is always a marker of forward movement. If you have a faction clock that says “Demolish the Reconciled” it’s tracking X/X progress towards that faction...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Btw, this is more or less what @pemerton (I think?) and @AbdulAlhazred and @prabe often say - they were running games in a manner not dissimilar to "play to find out" in older systems for many years. You don't need a PBTA ruleset or whatever to do it, they just tend to force your hand through...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Right, so note this statement at the bottom of page 187: "To achieve your goals, use GM Actions guided by your GM Principles (detailed on the following pages)." There are 3 goals: Play to find out what happens, Convey the fictional world honestly, Bring Doskvol to life. Everything under...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Yeah, so I think there's a "thing that's different" beyond what I posted previously that extends play to find out. I was reflecting yesterday on that while you're absolutely correct - the "dont steer the game towards outcomes/events and be curious" is doable and a strident feature of most...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Yeah, over the last year-ish I've been trying to understand why some novels give me a much better mental image of the back and forth then others, and trying to incorporate their descriptive techniques into how I portray NPCs. Bouncing between 1st and 3rd to speak / describe movements or gestures...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I would totally see saying that Blade’s resolution mechanic is process-validated when executed correctly; doubled down in the Threat Roll which is explicit about the entirety of stakes. One of the more interesting responses to the TR I’ve seen from folks in the Blades community is that they...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Yes! I’m sure the ensuing arguments will get us to 8k! (What is it about AW’s dice resolution mechanic that makes it fit the process-validated outcomes for you? Is it merely the openness, or something more I’m not quite grasping? There’s a lot of GM adjudication and interpretation happening...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I believe @pemerton can pass his Steel test to drop the line of conversation! :P
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    My wife says that she thinks it's cool that people do it though! If world-building is your hobby and it makes you happy, why not model what you want I guess!
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I thought we were done with the Steel thread :(. Faolyn is obviously never changing their mind, and at some point we're gonna run out of digital ink.
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Ah, gotcha! I think it might be fair to say that "my collection of tables and oracles are an organizational model that help me keep my setting in motion and consistent" maybe?
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I’m not sure I can parse this. Was this meant to be a further reply to the original thread? Obviously my output isn’t a model of anything, the model is what’s running in my head and helps me say interesting crap during play and do prep.
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Idk, I can comfortably say that I make decisions in my game(s) in keeping with the agenda and principles of play, and when I reflect on what I did and it falls short I update. Basically the same thing “Blorb Principles” advocate for high-prep transparent conventional play. But I don’t think...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I mean Dolmenwood is a pretty darn incoherent/implausible setting but an amazing sandbox! It’s full of magical mushroom faeries, doors to pathways outside mortal ken, brewers making the best beer, knights on quests with unicorns, Barons jockeying for political capitol, forgotten shrines of...
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    Dungeon World Gets New Owners, Second Edition Planned

    Maybe that’s next weeks dribble of pre-alpha stuff, haha.
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I just wanna note here that this paragraph says nothing without being super inculcated in specific terminology. I agree with the rest of your post, but can’t understand where you’re going here.
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    We get it, you dont like any game that imposes uncertainty on character internal states. Can we maybe all agree to drop this line? It's not going anywhere, and the length of responses between you and @pemerton gets exhausting :P.
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