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However Dancey is saying that the peak did not happen in the 80s but in the 90s with the settings and stuff and then it collapsed and crashed due to bloat. Same thing that happened in 2000 with the OGL boom. I think it is a publishing matter of the whole industry that needs to be fixed to help...

I would agree that 5 years seems to be the life cycle of a game like 4e. What happens after that I do not know. For example will print on demand services be good enough to change the desktop publishing industry? Being optimist I would say that with 5e Wotc will be trying to make a more casual...

No digital media can replace personal contact and its possibilities to play a game developed for that matter.

It is a principle to consider or debate about. How much power should businesses have. How should they operate. How should the economy operate. Cause you know even the games that get developed and how we play and entertain ourselves are subject to this parameter.

I would not be worried if I were you. You do not need a software to cast to the new generation, or any generation for that matter, the magic of tabletops. Wotc uses it because of its current game and business model. But you really do not need such a game to bridge to the computer crowd. This is...

I am pretty sure you did. Regarding Scott's job. But I guess it doesn't matter to discuss about it. We are making more noise than any sense here. All of us. Except Hairfoot. I want to requote him for truth

Yep, it is mostly a matter of trend to the D&D hardcore fan base. Not of direct sales. I guess it is not a challenge because there is nothing that they can do about it that would be worthing the price they would have to pay. Certainly it is not threatening by any means Wotc existence, as you put it.

A transition from 2e to 4e. How could have been received? Interesting to try think about.

You are correct in what you say. But still ENWorld has been one of the biggest customer base targets for D&D. This is what matters for Wotc.

Cause ENWorld is such an irrelevant community to D&D. Especially during 4E's launch. Yeah right..

It could be this. Sending C&D letters to OSRIC would not be exactly the same as the C&D letters they sent to character sheets -not the same for the hobby population. But exactly for this reason, I believe more and more OSRIC becomes popular the more difficulty they will have trying to settle...

Oh I am so right there with you. But give it some time. The 4e change was so abrupt that I cant say I have bad feelings about Paizo. Besides, I believe Paizo fans are more prone to buy something different than say the 3.xe-OGL fans of the past. Could be wrong though. I definitely hope not

:lol: I love it!

What we need is a bunch of other publishers to rise doing this in the tabletop business so there is more variety in the tabletop hobby. Some that rise to a level of the peak success levels of old FASA, DP9, Chaosium, Palladium, Pinnacle etch. I hope that the focused scope of 4e will help shape...

Oh come on. This has nothing to do with it and no one is on the right here. The matter or the debate is mostly political and highly relevant. The way I understand it, this has been the interactive forum of the 3pp industry. What matters should rise, on what form and style, how tough the debate...

I think this is a given. Try to fight it and you will do more harm than any good: see the OGL bloat for example. I agree with this. Conclusion? I believe the ancient greek recipe "pan metron ariston" is the best rule of how the market works optimally from a publisher's and consumers point of...

Necromancer Games, a prominent and dedicated OGL 3pp of D&D in the past, does not have the possibility to get its product to shops by a distributor. I am not sure if this is only about 2nd tier distribution or also 3rd tier. The blame falls on the relation of 4e and 3pp. Goodman Games, the only...

It is part of his job. Interacting with the public on behalf of the image of his company. Same way as it was part of the developers' and designers' job to offer podcasts and blogs for marketing reasons. As for the free time argument? This is nonsense. Scott is not a manual labourer.

Wotc is an entertainment company and it mostly lives and dies by its fan base. I doubt they are that big into casual market penetration so that message boards are irrelevant. If most fans on message boards get upset with Wotc, Wotc will be in trouble. This is difficult to happen on such a scale...

No need so I think. The way you put it got me pretty convinced I agree with your feelings here. :)