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    Elon Musk Calls for Wizards of the Coast to "Burn in Hell" Over Making of Original D&D Passages

    I think that's pretty much true. I also think that a well done "woke" story can do well financially. The Captain Marvel film was arguably the first "woke" MCU film, but it was also a pretty good/well made film, and it did well. Barbie was also arguably woke, highly regarded, and did well. But...
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    Elon Musk Calls for Wizards of the Coast to "Burn in Hell" Over Making of Original D&D Passages

    It's hard to say. They weren't leaning hard in the early 5e era ca 2014-18, which saw explosive growth. But I don't think they've had the same sort of disaster as befell the recent MCU either - despite similarly lacklustre products! And I think Paizo generally does well, while leaning in pretty...
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    Elon Musk Calls for Wizards of the Coast to "Burn in Hell" Over Making of Original D&D Passages

    I don't think he treated male staff any better. Did any of them get training & support? But I do think Gygax was often sexist (& if your inference is correct, possibly horny), and I wouldn't be surprised if he had treated a woman differently. His colleagues at TSR seemed very annoyed he had...
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    Elon Musk Calls for Wizards of the Coast to "Burn in Hell" Over Making of Original D&D Passages

    Apart from Internet discussion boards... A biography of Gygax. A book about TSR like The Game Wizards, and similar scholarly works. I would prefer a nuanced discussion rather than poo-slinging though. Gygax to me seems a rather complex character, and I would like to see discussion of his...
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    Elon Musk Calls for Wizards of the Coast to "Burn in Hell" Over Making of Original D&D Passages

    I'm calling him sexist here. It's ok to discuss it. Not sure I'd call it a "fact", it's an opinion, which I hold. I wouldn't put it in the introduction to a book sold as a celebration of D&D. But I think it's fine to discuss it in a different context.
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    Elon Musk Calls for Wizards of the Coast to "Burn in Hell" Over Making of Original D&D Passages

    Because of context - like I said, there is a time & place for everything. Still if the foreword had (a) only called him sexist, not misogynist and (b) not accused him of normalising slavery and wanting players to kill Vishnu, then I probably wouldn't really have that much of a problem with...
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    Elon Musk Calls for Wizards of the Coast to "Burn in Hell" Over Making of Original D&D Passages

    Reading up on the Jean Wells Palace of the Silver Princess affair, and some TSR alumni still attacking her even today, I kinda got the impression that E Gary Gygax was about the least sexist man in Lake Geneva!
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    Elon Musk Calls for Wizards of the Coast to "Burn in Hell" Over Making of Original D&D Passages

    I don't believe that in the specific case of Gygax & everything I've seen him write. I don't believe his kind of "benevolent" sexism inspires violence against women. Unlike more Libertarian types, I would not totally dismiss your argument though - I do actually think some fiction material can...
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    Elon Musk Calls for Wizards of the Coast to "Burn in Hell" Over Making of Original D&D Passages

    Honestly, if I believe that hardly any women like Traveller, or hex & chit wargames, but a lot more like Settlers of Catan, Vampire, 4e D&D, especially 5e D&D - I don't think I'm being sexist, never mind misogynistic. But if sexism = any belief in sex differences, then I'm being sexist. I'm...
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    Elon Musk Calls for Wizards of the Coast to "Burn in Hell" Over Making of Original D&D Passages

    So from my reading of this, sexist & misogynist mean the same thing to you, and your definition of misogynist "an attitude that women are by nature lesser than men" is a good definition of sexism, the kind you would typically see in a dictionary. Using miso- indicates at least a strong dislike...
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    Elon Musk Calls for Wizards of the Coast to "Burn in Hell" Over Making of Original D&D Passages

    Going by WoTC's track record I find that highly unlikely.
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    Elon Musk Calls for Wizards of the Coast to "Burn in Hell" Over Making of Original D&D Passages

    Well there are genuine misogynists out there, and they are often very dangerous to women. I guess it's something I feel quite strongly about. Edit: I don't see a lot of misogyny in daily life thank goodness, mostly second hand accounts, but I've certainly seen it on the Internet. It's pretty...
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    Elon Musk Calls for Wizards of the Coast to "Burn in Hell" Over Making of Original D&D Passages

    1. My impression is that they are saying WoTC shouldn't be insulting him in the intro to a celebration book. I agree with that. 2. They may well have no issues with anything Gygax ever said, or they may feel he shouldn't ever be criticised. I feel free to disagree with them if so. Personally...
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    Elon Musk Calls for Wizards of the Coast to "Burn in Hell" Over Making of Original D&D Passages

    I actually think you're being fairly polite. :D
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    Elon Musk Calls for Wizards of the Coast to "Burn in Hell" Over Making of Original D&D Passages

    I don't think you followed what I said? Unless you're siding with Elon, which is what an accusation of Whattaboutism would indicate - that I'm trying to deflect from the grave sin Elon identified, by bringing up other offences.
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    Elon Musk Calls for Wizards of the Coast to "Burn in Hell" Over Making of Original D&D Passages

    If you hate women I would not expect you to voluntarily hire one in a non-menial role. Yes "misogynist" is a much stronger word than "sexist", and I would not use them interchangeably. Gygax did not dislike or hate women, but he wrote some stuff I would call sexist. In particular there's a...
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    Elon Musk Calls for Wizards of the Coast to "Burn in Hell" Over Making of Original D&D Passages

    Yes. I basically agree with Prof DM/Dungeoncraft's take, or Gygax's daughter's take. I always thought Gygax came across a bit sexist in some of his writings. That doesn't make it appropriate to call him a sexist (& several other things) in the intro to a celebration book. It's not a burn in hell...
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    Elon Musk Calls for Wizards of the Coast to "Burn in Hell" Over Making of Original D&D Passages

    Calling someone a misogynist - a hater of women - is certainly an attack in my book. Likewise calling their writing misogynistic. FWIW I'd say the text, and Gygax himself, is sometimes sexist, but nowhere near misogynistic. If Gygax was actually a misogynist he'd never have hired eg Jean Wells...
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