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I disagree

Maybe it's just 6 years of playing with someone who is really broken, but I would never be that advaserial to her, I would just let her roll... and if someone else even someone normally better had an off night and just asked for a roll I would let them too... I agree if you can get really...

maybe we should go for one of my examples... the cook is about to lie and tell the players he was out doing something but the PCs are bad at telling if people are lying, but the CHaracters are very skilled in it... and the best character (has a feat and high wis) is the one that is the most...

that is totally insulting I role play all the time I just think that there are times when you need to use dice...

I'm sorry your right, I will go back to the warlord thread later... for now sorry I don't want to derail this it is a good discussion that seems not to be flairing with anger I don't think I'm telling them, the game is, it is the same as anything else dice rolls because I know people it would...

I don't think your doing it wrong either, I do think that your way works mostly if you know and have a long time friendship/understanding with your players

if it was only going to effect NPCs I would just say "These three seem to be scared...there reflexs are way slower then normal" no need to roll at all... rolls are for pc/npc interactions 75+% of the time

then "I'm using my insight to see if he is lying"

I don't roll anything npc vs npc at that point I just tell a story... I don't know anything about him being called a fraud any more or less then any other phycologist... I am using a game mechanic to effect the PC... the PC can choose to go with it or resist it (it would be an oppsed roll) so...

woah... no this has nothing to do with the magic cheerleader class that is completely different... no skill can shout a wound closed in my games...

but it is because of an outside action, an action that has rules... why do green hags have Deception +4 and knight hags Deception +7, Insight +6, and flyaers Deception +6, Insight +6, Persuasion +6, and the orcs basic Skills Intimidation +2 war chief Skills Intimidation +5 eye of G Skills...

I don't under stand why monsters have social skills if I'm not supposed to use them...

"the guard intimidated you, what do you do" is the same as "It's raining outside what do you do?"

the show https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lie_to_Me is based on a real person, there is no way to be a perfect lie detector but you can be really good at it. um nope the spell works periode your skill could be missed if a skill used as intended throws your adventure out the window it isn't the...

The essence of roleplaying is to play your character in the situation that he or she represents. If an outside force act on your character then it is up to the DM to relay the information and then the player reacts. "The guard intimidates you" is no different then "It's raining"

why? would you ask the player of a rouge how he is picking a lock?

this seems crazy, you want someone who doesn't know how to tell if someone is lying or not to tellyou how she is telling if he is lying... it would be like asking me "How are you using that trap finding skill?" "Idon't know I'm not prof in real life...but my character is" it seems like the...

is this a joke... of course it's magic.

the only difference between us then is if the player would roll to intimidate so would my NPC... if I roll and say "I got a 17 intimidate cheak" would that be better then "I beat you on an intimidate check" I don't understand the NPC either did or did not intimadte the dice are a fair randomizer...

man that would be so funny, she is obviously trying to see if he's lying what else do you need her to say?