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Heh. I have to admit, I stay VERY far away from any Star Wars conversations on the Internet. I try to stay VERY far away from any fandom anymore because I just can't handle it anymore. It sucks all the joy away and makes me walk away from stuff that I used to like. I've learned my lesson...

Well, to be fair, I don't think any actions were ever taken over licence violations. That was part of the problem with the OGL. It was never actually tested. And, the first time there was any actual push to test the license, everyone abandoned it. I'm not a lawyer and I don't pretend to know...

Well, if I was doing D&D? I'd have a setting bible with lots of stuff. I'd do the prep work. :D Now though? Yeah, I'd likely lean into something like Ironsworn (although, to be fair, that's a fairly narrow genre and not as broad as D&D - I'd have to hunt for another game if I wanted...

Wow, that sounds like the most boring adventure I've seen. A couple of stat blocks for six encounters? Maybe a pet? No NPC's, no prisoners, nothing? Sure, if we're going to make the most basic, prosaic, boring adventures possible, then sure. No worries. It's funny. The first scenario in...

How did they pick their first quest? What rumours? Rumours of adventure locations that the DM hasn't created yet? How did they travel to the location that doesn't exist yet? How did they know where it was? How did the DM know how long it would take to get there? So many questions. And...

Fair enough. But, again, "I don't want efficiency or ease so I'll use D&D to create sandboxes with" is hardly praising D&D is it? :p But, see, that's the thing. I've never said that you can't do it. I've just said that there are easier ways to do it. And, frankly, it seems that there is...

Oh, come on. That's being very disingenous. Sorry for using "broken" instead of "crippled". My bad for using the wrong jargon. There were multiple publishers whose OGL PI section basically read, "Everything in this book other than material that is OGC by virtue of appearing in the SRD is...

Heh. I know this was meant light heartedly. But I would like to answer actually. There’s nothing wrong with “like”. That’s perfectly fine. But I’m not really talking about preference. I mean good grief DnD is my go to game and I’ve certainly run sandbox (ish) campaigns in it. Like I said, I...

Not quite. I’m saying that the prep for this six encounter dungeon multiplied by the number of locations that the dm provides for the players to explore - a minimum of three at the very least, up to dozens or even hundreds according to some- makes it prohibitively time consuming. Or to put it...

Y’know how much material I needed to play 400 hours of sandbox in Ironsworn? A page. One page. And here’s a dirty secret. That page was AI generated because I was having a bit of trouble thinking of a good start point. So no. I don’t need a “stack of modules” to run a sandbox. It can be done...

TIL that Star Wars fans used a character’s hair color to argue a point. :wow:

By the same token, claiming that it was purely altruistic is a bit revisionist too though.

Again, you are just proving my point. If I need three full modules, just to provide a modicum of choice for the players, that's not a system that's easy to run sandboxes in. If I need a raft of random generators, pages of notes, and adventures, just to get through the next four hours of play...

Not as good =/= bad.

Except of course for the mountain of broken ogc material released. But we don’t count that.

I totally agree here. That was, I believe, the point I made all along. DnD, because of the level of prep needed, is perhaps not as good as other systems for sandboxes.

Sigh. With the new Andor released, I'm definitely going to have to rewatch Andor Season 1 again before I watch 2. I've forgotten too much to just start watching. Gonna sit on this for a while though and avoid any fandom screeds about how great/bad the show is and try to judge it on its own...

It's interesting @Bedrockgames that your example isn't from D&D. Does rather reinforce my point about how D&D is somewhat more difficult to run as a sandbox than other systems. And, good grief, how much material did you need to create two NPC's? To do that in D&D is a LOT more work. Note...

Honestly? Nothing. To be frank, I'm not sure why what I'm saying has this huge push back. Most campaigns will slide along the spectrum from linear to non-linear and back and forth throughout the campaign. Sometimes things will be very linear - a travel scenario for example is by definition...