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Macbeth, looks like we need more soldiers. I'll take one. I am also guessing it they may be one of the easier professions for a newbie to play, like the fighter in D&D? Please draw me up the stats and I'll come up with a background in the next couple of days. I am thinking about making him...

I just remembered on another movie we used to quote a lot: The Warriors! That movie is great. It should be made into a RP game scenario. "You packing?" "I'm packing." "I shoulda figured they were whimps." "I just LIKE doing things like that." "You warriors are good. Real good." "The...

MacBeth, if you don't get a full complement of experienced Spycraft players and have an opening, I am interested. I don't have the book or a class preference, so I will take whatever no one else takes, as long as you you feel it's a class/position appropriate for a newbie to run. If it turns...

Hey, I am SO there dude. Make me a character! I'll go post there now...

The movie I have been wanting to make into a game (RPG or otherwise) since first time I saw it was: The Warriors. If you have seen it, think about how this movie is the perfect "must fight your way from point A to B" team-based movie you ever saw. If you haven't seen it, go rent it. Now...

Darn it. Too bad I don't own Spycraft. :( :( :(

Hey, I LIKE this movie! :cool: For my homage to it, see this post: http://www.enworld.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1136517#post1136517 "TALON! TALON! TALON!" :D

Well, if you have the money lying around, get yourself a Phylactery of Undead Turning instead. For 11,000 gp you get a +4 to turning, much better than the feat's +1. If you encounter a lot of undead, and who doesn't, it's very much worth it I think.

Yeah, until he dies alone in the wilderness from battle, starvation, dehydration, failed FORT or WILL roll, and no direction or guidance. ;) Take the magic domain cleric. I did. He rocks. :D

Say, I hate to hijack this thread, but I have been meaning to buy that game based on reviews alone. Is the game relatively easy to pick up and play? I don't think my group will want to read another thick rule book. :eek:

Ok Two, our group played last night and here are my observations when I kept initiative in mind. We only had one battle last night, and as luck would have it, it was against a ghost. Everyone was entering a narrow staircase in a trap door on the floor. Before our trailing wizard could enter...

Respectfully... Depends on whether your group rolls init every round or not. But yes, usually once. (Our group's house rule is to reroll every time you take damage or lose a save.) Again, my cleric is not in melee in every battle. And although Dodge might still help in ranged attacks, a +1...

Ha. I tend to see all this in a much different way. My cleric is not in melee in every single battle so Divine Favor may not always apply. But how many battles will I be able to apply the improved initiative bonus? Every one of them. And, strangely enough, the more individual enemies...

Maybe, but you are not stating the whole picture. Does extend and persistent beat improved initiative AND another feat? Remember that Persistent Divine Favor is costing you two feats (and a 5th level slot I might add). I would rather have imp init. and another feat...and the 5th level slot.

Er...aren't we saying the same thing??

Money and anything we sell we split evenly. For magic items we make a list and roll dice and then pick in the order of the rolls. After the first pass, if there is anything left, we all roll again. If a pass of the list is not enough to give everyone something, we give out a bonus portion of...

Right. I have noticed all that too. And the cyclical initiative of 3E just make it worse I think. The guys who go last more often than not or on the defensive and merely reactign to what came before. Also, remember that in high level magical combat the winner is usually the person who goes...

Hey, that's what I just said! And I didn't have the benefit of the spreadsheets, only experience. ;)

Hey, keep talking guys, and I may just take Extend Spell and Persistent Spell as my next two feats. By that time, I'll have all the extra slots I need to make use of them and the spells will give me more bonuses.

Ok, good point. But I took the feat myself and have never regretted it. Let's just say going somewhere near the end of the initiative order sucks. By the time it gets to you, your options may be severly limited. :eek: