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"the term “childish play” is not intended to be disparaging. I do not think that playing in a childish manner is a shameful activity. If you do, you might need help, because you’re criticizing children being childish. The name comes, of course, from the common role-adoption game that children...

Not RPGing, traditional and simulationist play. Other styles don't get the same treatment. Traditional play is "playing to find out what's in the DM's notes" or "Princess play," but narrative play isn't "Being overly concerned about character" or "children's story hour." You can tell from the...

The original people who coined those terms were also using them in a derogatory manner. I guess it's okay to use derogatory terms if you aren't the ones who made them up. That's not something that I've ever heard is okay, but since so many people here are arguing just that, it must be true...

You have completely misunderstood. Those are the same. The implication is childishness and has nothing to do with gender. Cops and Robbers play would also be disparaging. Jesus guys. Get off the gender thing already.

Ahh, so if someone uses racial slurs in an article, but says that it's not disparaging, it isn't? I don't think so. He made the claim, but still used derogatory terminology when he didn't have to. The words used don't cease to be disparaging just because he says that. And it would be the same...

Or else he could use a non-disparaging term like Roleplaying Childhood Heroes. He chose not to, which makes what he has to say suspect. And no, your musings are inaccurate, at least when it comes to me. I have no such hang-ups.

Yep. There's a middle ground.

He is using disparaging terminology for that style of play, which makes the motive suspect. If he wanted his motive to be taken at face value, he'd have used non-disparaging terms.

That's why you're under the mistaken impression that it's like a train wreck/broken record. Like a working record, maybe, but not a broken one, and certainly not a train wreck.

Not one person that I've seen has said that it's illegitimate. In fact, the opposite has been said many, many, MANY times by various people. Saying that it's not for us and saying why, isn't saying that it's illegitimate.

We haven't hit 300 RPM yet. This is just getting started. ;)

It's completely fair. He uses derogatory terms like... GM Story Hour Princess Play Under Substantial Exploration he says, "This is not just a big pile of GM notes..." Disparaging DMs with notes by referring to them as "a big pile." And more, but I've proven my point. There are...

There's Battletech the strategic wargame and Battletech(Mechwarrior) the RPG.

The game, the RPG or both? I don't see why the RPG could be run as a narrative game with a few rules tweaks/additions.

I've noticed a number of those authors have a sense of superiority about their playstyle over the others. It taints any points they may have had.

Why? He and I agree on a lot of things, but not everything. People on the same side of a discussion can disagree over specifics. :) The issue has never been that a cook(or whoever else) could be there. It's the timing of the cook being there being dependent on PC skill with lockpicking...

Slavery isn't necessary for that, though. If the sorcerer kings weren't into slavery themselves, they could easily just set up a random lottery system and if your number comes up, off to the afterlife you go. Even better, the sorcerer king could make bucks by allowing folks to buy out of their...

That's true. Only when the outcome is in doubt and failure has meaning should there be a roll.

Not a clue. I don't have most of it. Just the DMG and I haven't even looked through that yet.

D&D has much more than just violence. It has kidnapping, grave robbing, robs people of consent and more.