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Don't most players have the option of setting their Charisma score before they even choose their class? Also, you get an ASI at level 4. That's tier 1. If you envision a diplomat that's also a warrior, you have options. Obviously, you shouldn't expect a diplomat to be as effective in combat...

That's just plain unnecessary IMHO. Even if you have a high Charisma, a lot of random people are just going hate you for whatever reason (d20 linear distribution, etc.).

To be fair. No one said that. Heck some here would think an extra background and tools is not enough. They want that "unique" Fighter ability so that Bards and Wizards who can cast Wish don't outshine them.

These thread work better when the initial take isn't "fighters are broken" , "the game devs are bad", etc. etc.

It's good that any class can become effective at the social skills. Players choice between trade offs and such.

The Fighter needs to dominate the Social pillar. If it did, the complaining would come from other classes. And you can't make everything dominate the Social Pillar.

I think a lot of this depends on the type of table you play, a "hard" table that requires optimization and calls a lot of skill checks - might find that the extra feats are just better spent on combat. That is a Fighter's primary function. A more malleable table might find that a fighter with...

So fighters are just "I came here to drink some beer and kick some...looks like I'm outta beer..."? The "default setting" in DnD is that there are plenty of threats in the world - not enough for the authorities to easily handle. That's sort of the point of the game. Good guys (including...

I don't consider that a "house rule". A DM should be able to gauge NPCs reactions to things without constantly rolling dice or calling for skill checks. I don't just say all fighters are revered, etc. It depends on the situation and circumstance and the type of character in question. I...

I was always assumed that the common masses identified more with Fighters. As they are a "mundane" class. Mages would naturally look to mages as leaders, etc. The local bard at the tavern may very well be respected but is not typically viewed as a leader. That's how I've run things...

A fighter can get a decent Charisma, Persuasion, Inspiring Leader, etc. No they won't mechanically "outshine" the 20 Charisma Bard with Expertise in Persuasion. If they did, the Eloquence Bard would start whining about being "outshined". This is where the DM is supposed to use reason and not...

Dex warrior/rogues are already quite effective in a normal setting. I don't think AC is an issue. Remember that HP are abstract (and even moreso in a setting like this). Getting "hit", doesn't mean that you actually bleed. I would add an actual Buckler (+1 AC), bonus action to doff/don. And...

Well. To be fair, not using a shield means you don't These threads always devolve! Freely admit my guilt...everyone's gotta have the last word!

Using Daredevil as an example of a "blind" character is sort of insulting to blind people - in my admittedly uneducated opinion. Hell he doesn't even need braille to read. Having a "blind" character who mechanically functions as a character with 20/20 vision and dark vision is a pretty...

Being allowed to cherry-pick which class abilities (and maybe even skills/spells) to "trade" for Feats, other abilites, etc. can result in overpowered characters.

I suppose then what would be the point of playing a blind character if you won't accept any of the penalties. It should be harder to be blind rather than exactly the same (or even arguably superior since Darkness doesn't affect you in combat, perception checks, etc.). If someone was actually...

I can see that. The min maxing and squeezing every last drop out of stuff probably less prevalent.

You see this sometimes where players want a "style". I suppose Geralt would also be a Strength warrior who doesn't wear armor. A player might even ask for the benefits of Heavy Armor so they can dump Dex...it can get silly. Or "fluff" like a "natural instinct" that is equal to plate and shield.

Gord was dual wielding when Drizzt was still in diapers.

Women can be jerks and racists too. There's always that.