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That's kinda me... except I just tend to roll low. Not "poorly" at all times, just low. For games like GURPS were skill rolls are roll under, it's a plus. For everything else (like damage in GURPS) it's a minus. On a d20 I can roll under 5 almost 20 times in a row. It's why I refuse to play...

1 - I seriously doubt "Fighters not being able to miss" will ever, ever be a "default". An option for a narrow or even single 'style' of Fighters? Sure, I can see that happening. 2 - Why not? Why can't a player make a Fighter who can't ever miss? Why must it be "pile on munchkin levels of...

I can't even grok how "it's" a different play style?

You keep asserting this, but obviously someone requested it or it wouldn't be in there.

I have no idea what you're trying to say here. Look man, I haven't gotten all insulting up on you. But if that's the conversation you want to have I can recommend a completely different message board for that.

I have a history of terrible dice rolling. To the extent that if I play D&D I don't play Fighters, I play support roles (Thief, Wizard, Cleric, etc) because constantly failing to hit means your character (as a Fighter) is constantly failing to do it's job. DoaM might just mean I bother...

The "lodged in firm and hard" was comedy, but if DoaM is a core concept, i.e. an option a fighter can choose, even if it's a GWF, then I'll probably pick it up. If the option is languishing in a "sidebar in the DMG" somewhere, then I'll know WotC isn't serious about helping us bad dice rollers...

I kinda disagree. I'm feeling a bit nostalgic for the feel of paper in my hands, the bitter sweet despair as your books become more and more dinged up through use. It's kinda a thing all on it's own to pull out an old rpg book and see where you colored in the black and white line art oh so...

For the record: I am serious. I may have a bit of tongue in cheek attitude in the opening post, but I am serious about buying 5e if DoaM is tightly in there. Or 6e if 5e is a miss. Not sure I can keep my excitement level up for another 8 years for 7e (if 6e passes on DoaM)... but we'll see.

I always hated the way Paladins were champions of a deity to begin with, I'd be much happier with them if they were more closely associated with their actual roots and were champions of a King or Kingdom (or Empire/Emperor).

At this point I feel safe saying that failure to include DoaM will cause me to not buy 5e.

Huh. So it's not okay to state I like DoaM and would buy D&D if it were included as a fundamental core feature? I really have been gone for awhile.

If 5e includes a specific thing as a core features, then yes I will.

My participation the last few days has brought unto me a revelation! I like DoaM so much that if it is a core, unremovable, too firmly lodged in to easily house rule out concept *, I will buy 5e! Yes, me. They guy who has never bought a WotC D&D product ever. Who stopped being a D&D consumer...

Oh now that was just diaglo bait and you know it. ;)

Well... there's nothing else to comment on since DDNFan isn't making an argument. He's saying "I like playing D&D 5e, but if they add this one thing BLARGALALALALAL!" Manbearcat made an argument. Croathian is making discussion. You are making arguments. DDNFan is stating a decision. Morrus...

Dang nab it Morrus! You hath stirred me from my couple years long slumber with the mention of GURPS! But yeah, Damage on a Miss could be in GURPS. Wouldn't exactly be outa place, but as DDNFan says, it's an option so he can safely ignore it. I mean he already has modified the 5th ed...

I still haven't recieved a confirmation email... however I have gotten posting and settings editting privileges back. Thanks Plane Sailing!

Can ya help a brother out and tell me which @ it went to? This is a very, very old account and I'm geussing I no longer hve that email addy. Side note: How could I be waiting for an email confirmation? This account is old and I've been posting for years... unless you just sent one...

So... I've been away from ENW since posting in the "Faq Faq Faq" thread but upon returning I've discovered I can now only post here in the Meta sub-forum. All my low-level permissions have been turned off.