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  1. jmartkdr2

    D&D 5E (2014) Help me understand & find the fun in OC/neo-trad play...

    It could be, but I can't really say with confidence based on this information. It might be trad-trad, or somewhere in between the two.
  2. jmartkdr2

    D&D 5E (2014) Help me understand & find the fun in OC/neo-trad play...

    That another totally valid style the the guy who wrote the article never even heard of.
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    D&D General How often do you complete a campaign as a player?

    Even in my experience, when playing Dungeons & Dragons (tm) - campaigns don't end because of the system. They end because real life gets in the way of scheduling. Even at high levels, if you find the system isn't working for you anymore, you tend to find a way to wrap it up quickly so you can...
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    D&D General What is the right amount of Classes for Dungeons and Dragons?

    I think each new kind of magic should get its own system - clerics shouldn't cast like wizards who shouldn't cast like druids, etc. I think sorcerer currently represents multiple kinds of magic, so lumping them together isn't really a good idea. Dragon magic shouldn't work like wild magic which...
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    D&D General How often do you complete a campaign as a player?

    I'm not really agreeing, but I do like to understand other and see others be understood. I'm currently in three campaigns with groups that have lasted since 2015, so 9 years now. Two of those have only finished one campaign in that time, but finish them we did. The other group has finished...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Help me understand & find the fun in OC/neo-trad play...

    That might have been a major part of the shift, for sure. (Even though, somewhat ironically, HP is mostly a plot-driven series.) But Superhero movies, especially the MCU, are very much character-driven stories, and that style is still now the norm in mass media.
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    D&D 5E (2014) Help me understand & find the fun in OC/neo-trad play...

    The history certainly goes back at east that far, but I think it became the norm in popular media a bit later (in the last twenty years or so) - at least that's my feeling. And even then, it's a shift in what's more common and popular - character-driven stories and plot-driven stories...
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    D&D General How often do you complete a campaign as a player?

    I believe their thesis was: a game will only last about X months, because Real Life (tm) eventually intrudes. So planning a campaign that will take three years to finish is, ultimately, planning to fail. The solution, therefore, is to plan a campaign that will finish in, say, nine months and...
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    D&D General When did you leave D&D? Why? For what game? And what brought you back?

    Since someone's gonna ask: have you looked into PF 2e yet? Because it's closer to 4e DnD than any other edition thereof. I suspect you have but you didn't mention it. It's not as openly high-magic as 4e, which I do miss and also can't find people to play with, but it definitely scratches the...
  10. jmartkdr2

    D&D 5E (2014) Help me understand & find the fun in OC/neo-trad play...

    I'd quibble and say that's when Trad started. Neotrad evolved as the general media landscape changed to more character-focused stories over plot focused stories, ttrpg players followed that trend.
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    D&D General How often do you complete a campaign as a player?

    I think people sometimes forget that Lanefan doesn't play 5e where raise dead is cheaper than reincarnate so having the more expensive option be less reliable seems like a strange choice. If you can pay half as much to not risk it, the risk seems really stupid. Does it? Doctor Who doesn't...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Help me understand & find the fun in OC/neo-trad play...

    I though if an example: What's the most important scene in Avengers: Age of Ultron? It's not a fight at all - it's the party scene, especially the late-night bit where the Avengers are all sitting around talking about the hammer. They're just talking, sharing backstory and motivation and...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Help me understand & find the fun in OC/neo-trad play...

    That's all excellent. I'll add a few tips but you got the core stuff already. 1. Don't worldbuild too much until you know who the party is. Then focus your worldbuilding on stuff they would care about (ie the cleric's church) or that you plan to use (ie the evil god whose cult they be fighting...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Help me understand & find the fun in OC/neo-trad play...

    I was trying to note difference between neotrad and OC, if there is any. OC becomes the hyperbolic extreme. And apparently the only player some dms here can find.
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    D&D General The D&D Memes Thread

    Except for the LT. The LT is lost as heck. LT's got hypothermia.
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    D&D General Ignoring the rules!

    Nixing multiclassing is a good way to break excessive optimization habits, if that's an issue in your gaming circle. You might still see a lot of paladins but it's a lot more manageable than sorhexadins.
  17. jmartkdr2

    D&D 5E (2014) Help me understand & find the fun in OC/neo-trad play...

    I'll try, but I thik you have a bad luck problem, or perhaps just the annoying-vegan fallacy. Make a character - not just a build or a token, and not just a name and some attributes. They should goals, motivations, fears, etc. This is a character for a story that we're going to create...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Help me understand & find the fun in OC/neo-trad play...

    OC (as distinct from even neo-trad) is when the focus is on making cool characters, then you put them in situations where they can show off their cool stuff. It's going right for the power fantasy and skipping the "boring bits" to get there. It can be a bit like eating ice cream for dinner...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Help me understand & find the fun in OC/neo-trad play...

    I would say it's the types of characters players are expected to bring. OSR is regular folk in a bad situation, neo-trad is heroes, or at least heroes-in-the-making. Neo-trad is about the Avengers, OSR is about a squad of regular cops (at most!) in NYC while aliens invade.
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    D&D 5E (2014) Help me understand & find the fun in OC/neo-trad play...

    Narrative Neo-Trad is Traditional but with character-focused stories. Which can be a really hard distinction to define (there's always characters, and there's usually a plot) but the sensibilities are noticeably different. Neo-Trad meshes better with more modern fantasy books Like Harry...
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