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    D&D 5E (2014) D&D Promises to Make the Game More Queer

    If one of the designers tells a reporter that he included the gay dude in order to make a point. The only reason I have any problem with these NPCs inclusion is because Crawford went up and told every he included them in order to push an ideological agenda. Otherwise, I would give him and...
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    D&D 5E (2014) D&D Promises to Make the Game More Queer

    No. That would be equally ridiculous.
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    D&D 5E (2014) D&D Promises to Make the Game More Queer

    That would make sense, except Crawford came out and said that he included those NPCs in order to push his ideology. Otherwise, I would have assumed WotC did it because they thought it made sense for the story. I have no opinion concerning the NPCs, only the motivation behind including them.
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    D&D 5E (2014) D&D Promises to Make the Game More Queer

    Please provide a quote where I said I have any problem with including LGBT characters. I have been explaining my point dozens of times and continue to be misrepresented and my opinions interpreted in poor faith. Let's spell it out: Gay characters/NPCs/whatever: Good Using game to push...
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    D&D 5E (2014) D&D Promises to Make the Game More Queer

    I've explained it three times. If you're interested, look up one of those posts. But no, I'm not arguing LGBT themes/characters is propaganda. I'm arguing the statement Crawford made and motivation behind it were propagandist. I have no issue with LGBT themes/characters, but would prefer if the...
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    D&D 5E (2014) D&D Promises to Make the Game More Queer

    In that case, I would say I have no intention to use D&D to promote anything. It is a game and nothing inside of it should be taken seriously, at least at my table.
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    D&D 5E (2014) D&D Promises to Make the Game More Queer

    OK. Let's try bolThe LGBTQ is not inappropriate for children. Propaganda is. That's fair. I still think the whole, "I show my fact, you show your facts, we each share each other's analysis of them, and together we decide whose analysis is better" is a much clearer, productive way to deal...
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    D&D 5E (2014) D&D Promises to Make the Game More Queer

    What do you mean, exactly? Do you mean showing how heterosexual marriage is somehow virtuous *barf*. Absolutely not. I might show how marrying for money and property, followed by murdering one's spouse could be temporarily advantageous, though, at least before it causes a permanent, generational...
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    D&D 5E (2014) D&D Promises to Make the Game More Queer

    Exactly, everything causes drama. Everything is a possible adventure/complication - so it's almost unrealistic to think that two gay glassblowers (get it?) wouldn't draw attention, or pair of bisexual alchemist wouldn't stir something up.
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    D&D 5E (2014) More HP - was it a good idea?

    But individual encounters in 5e are just as challenging if built right. Here's one from last night. PCs are walking down a sandstone hallway when they come to a room. Inside the room, they find a golden sapphire encrusted challis. On the opposite side of the room are three sharks' heads with...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Build an anti-stereotypical team of 4.

    You could almost pull off a party of all monks. Fighter: Open Hand Monk Cleric: Tranquility Monk Wizard: Sun Soul Monk (I would put the Way of the Four Elements Monk here, if it wasn't so terrible) Rogue: Shadow Monk Any Big Bad they face will find him/herself constantly stunned and unable to...
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    D&D 5E (2014) D&D Promises to Make the Game More Queer

    Yeah. Politics has become even more extreme in the five years since I left the US. It drove my crazy in university, which is one of the reasons I now advocate in favor of apolitical entertainment and decided to leave the US after graduation. Now instead of arguing about the use of pronoun and...
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    D&D 5E (2014) D&D Promises to Make the Game More Queer

    You might be right. But why would Crawford need to make such a statement if that was the case? If it's already accepted why congratulate themselves for being politically correct.
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    D&D 5E (2014) D&D Promises to Make the Game More Queer

    They aren't harmful sterotypes, though. They're historical facts that make sense within the context of the world I run. To do anything else would betray the world I've created. As to why I would create this world, I don't know. Maybe I'm a little morbid. If you've read much Jack Vance you'd...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Build an anti-stereotypical team of 4.

    That would be a ton of fun.
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    D&D 5E (2014) D&D Promises to Make the Game More Queer

    That all makes sense. I agree with all of it. But we're still speaking past each other. Once again, include the LGBT community. That's fine. I have no problem with that. I just can't support Crawford's sentiment, "I wasn’t about to have this book go out and not acknowledge that people like me...
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    D&D 5E (2014) D&D Promises to Make the Game More Queer

    Once again, your misrepresenting my words. Of course there are countless example, but none taken casually. Nor was is casual when my brother came out. It was a family ordeal for the older generations, even in modern day America. The inclusion of "look, they're two gay blacksmiths and no one...
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    D&D 5E (2014) D&D Promises to Make the Game More Queer

    In my games, that's how I'd play it, yes - but only because of the source material for my setting (medieval Europe), not because of my view I actually hold. When people began to point out they don't see medieval Europe as the default background for D&D, I dropped that line of argument due to an...
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    D&D 5E (2014) D&D Promises to Make the Game More Queer

    What does this have to do with anything. No one here is arguing against any of this.
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    D&D 5E (2014) D&D Promises to Make the Game More Queer

    Please point out anywhere in this discussion where I say the LGBT community should be excluded, not represented, or villainized. I have said nothing of the sort. I have made two and only two points over and over, which very few people have combated: 1. Casual inclusion of LGBT does not it the...
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