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They are still editions though aren’t they? Edition simply means it is a specific form of that book that is distinct from other forms of that book. It isn’t a dirty word - it is simply an acknowledgement that there are changes from previous editions. Call it a revised edition. At least call...

You aren’t resisting any misinformation. You’re just having a bit of a meltdown. You acknowledge there is a rules revision. That is the point. It is a revised set of rules and, accordingly, a new edition because of this. It is an absurdity to try and police the notion that it must not be...

Any marketing expert will tell you that if you have to keep shouting down different people who aren’t ‘on message’ with the thing you want them to be saying, then there is something wrong with your marketing strategy. There is. It is a new edition. No confusion.

The Essentials line was released when 4E was tanking and was really an attempt to appeal to OSR customers with its stripped back rules and throwback covers as well as the indie crowd with its digest sized format. It still had a ‘Essentials’ title that provided a point of difference though. The...

I think what a few posters on this thread may be missing is that arguing against criticism of a RPG company with terminal intensity actually just puts off more customers.

I think they already have.

And the fans don’t care. WotC don’t get to redefine the English language to suit their marketing needs. It is a new edition by any metric. It has new rules, requires new core books to be bought and outmodes the previous core rulebooks. That is a new edition. Nobody would need to make any...

Just to state, as well, I have pre-ordered all three of the core books - physically from my FLGS and electronically from D&D Beyond. My own capsule review from the previews I have seen thinks that the books look better organised and easier to use, with more character building options in the...

No it isn’t. The root cause is from the company. Fans will say and do whatever they do - and they have no obligation, whatsoever in terms of their chatter ‘harming' the company. It is up to WotC to either try and control this or not worry about it. They have failed in both aspects....and here we...

I’m not sure that Skyrealm of Jorune is ahead of its time as much as it is fairly peculiar even today. Immortals was trying to do a White Wolf Vampire-style RPG for less morally challenging...well..Immortals, basically. It was following a trend in my view rather than ahead of one and was a...

You are arguing all these points, and that is why discourse is fundamentally dishonest. There is no official name. A year of publication is not a name unless it indicates what it actually is. If they said it was the 2024 Edition that would be a thing. If they said it was a Revised Edition that...

It apparently matters to WotC. That is all.

Yes. You are arguing that a new edition isn’t a new edition because you say it is not a new edition. It is a logical fallacy...and to be clear you are literally arguing the definition of a circular argument now too. We are paying customers. That doesn’t sound like we have axe to grind. On a...

1) If we keep arguing over the same points, it is called a circular argument.....or do we need to debate the meaning of this too?! 2) They can call it “Susan" if they want and their customers will call them fools for that. At the moment, their customers are calling them fools. 3) This debate...

Oh...and this ridiculous circular argument isn’t causing any confusion at all, is it?! D&D doesn’t have an exclusive authority over the use of English terms for book publications. They have created a marketing own goal by attempting to enforce this. It all just looks ridiculous. Honestly, had...

This is pretty circular. There is no such exclusive term as ‘D&D Edition’. There are different editions of D&D just like any other book or game.

Simply not true. A new edition could simply mean a few corrections. I have Call of Cthulhu 1st through to 7E and the first 6 editions had barely any changes at all, with the 7E requiring about half a page of conversion notes. The same is true of multiple games and books of all types. All...

The ‘implications’ are correct though. It has new rules, which change old rules, and requires new books to be up to date. All of this is implied by the term ‘new edition’. To try and describe it in any other term is in denial. Why would anybody be concerned about ‘backwards compatibility’ at all...

It needs to be noted that D&D Beyond are currently defining any notion of their being a new edition on their site as “trolling”. While I understand the concerns of not wanting to deter existing customers, but tying yourselves into verbal knots and treating the term ‘edition’ as if it is a dirty...

WotC are becoming very weird and paranoid recently.