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  1. JConstantine

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I see other people have already pointed this out, so I apologise if this feels like dogpiling, but this is misrepresenting what @Campbell said. Lacking the agenda of "make the characters' lives not boring" does not mean one has the opposite agenda. Similarly, the characters lives being not...
  2. JConstantine

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I'd say "no retries" can be as much about a presenting a certain narrative as it is about session pacing.
  3. JConstantine

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    You'll have to roll to find out.
  4. JConstantine

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    What? I've pointed out previously that there are people who view various PbtA games, including AW, as gamey because of the move structure. And, while I can't speak to MHRP specifically, Cortex is incredibly gamist with step up/down, buying off hitches, etc.
  5. JConstantine

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I suspect the charge is directed at Edwards more than Baker, though possibly with some conflation of the two.
  6. JConstantine

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Link doesn't work for me, but if it's what I think it is, the author's revision is that they consider "neotrad" to be a misappellation to the playstyle laid out in the original post, and that "neotrad" should refer to game design, while "OC" should apply to the playstyle, yes? I, however, have...
  7. JConstantine

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Is it really all that surprising? The player who creates an elaborate 50-page backstory with everything nailed down is as real as the murderhobo with nothing beyond a name. Extreme outliers they may be, but they're out there.
  8. JConstantine

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    So, "prep situations, not plots" is basically born from the same desire as sandbox play: namely, wanting to avoid railroading and ensuring player decisions mattered by having the GM unconstrained by a rigid plot. Both of what you mention can fall within it depending on GM/group style.
  9. JConstantine

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Agreed. This is what I was getting at with a previous comment about not enough weight being given to player idiosyncrasies, but you've put it more overtly.
  10. JConstantine

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Whilst I can understand your perspective here, it's been pointed out, more than once, that the illusionism from the GM is important to certain players in helping maintain their suspension of disbelief (and by extension, immersion). That transparency you consider a sign of integrity is actively...
  11. JConstantine

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I'm not sure that term is quite so appropriate. So, "OC"/"original character" comes from the community of people who create fan works for various media. In that context, they're essentially fan inserts, and while there can certainly be overlap in that regard as far as RPGs go - particularly with...
  12. JConstantine

    Warhammer: The Old World RPG Offers A New Take On The Empire

    While Warhammer Fantasy wasn't strictly the level of satire that 40k was, both were originally approached with tongue firmly in cheek. However, over the years and decades, the original writers naturally left, but the replacements varied in their grasp of the material - at best, they understood...
  13. JConstantine

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Does this not rather imply that LARP is childish? Seems to me you are doing exactly what you are complaining about.
  14. JConstantine

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Quite. My father's current wife once asked me (in a somewhat judgemental tone) if I didn't think it was childish to be eating a certain chocolate dessert, to which I simply responded that it was no more childish than her eating crisps/chips that used a cartoon mascot. It seemed to drive the...
  15. JConstantine

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    What a spectacular misunderstanding of the quote.
  16. JConstantine

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    “Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and...
  17. JConstantine

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I have never heard the term "princess play" outside of that post. "Play pretend", "play make-believe" and "play dress-up" are what was common for me growing up (and all gender-neutral).
  18. JConstantine

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    This thread certainly goes right round, baby, right round.
  19. JConstantine

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Fail forward isn't a mechanic to be codified, simply a technique than can be employed (or not) as one sees fit. Granted, any given game could mechanise it - FFGSW/Genesys basically does with the failure with advantage dice result (though one thing I appreciate about the game is that it has...
  20. JConstantine

    Warhammer: The Old World RPG Offers A New Take On The Empire

    "I can fix them." - Nagash, probably
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