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It is not the same scennario, because now the party is spaced out behind me where they should be. They are no longer the dumbest party in the history of d&d. I put the move above.

I am not the one who decided that, that is how flamestrike set it up the first time. We open the door and just all file in like we are on a stroll through the park and got set up inside the room 20' from the enemy. I was furious about that because it put us at a huge disadvantage and I thought...

If the PCs are in "typical formation" means they are all behind the bladesinger, not all in the room like you said. That is fundamentally different from your initial set up. They are behind the bladesinger with 5 foot spacing - bladesinger, cleric, rogue, ranger. So ranger is 30 feet down...

That is not how it goes. The party made stupid decisions by not being spread out to start with, they are not going to make more stupid decisions in the battle. I clearly said they retreat back through the door and you have them engaging in melee and going nova, casting third level spells and...

Ok easy. Sounds like the orcs are the dungeon guards. If I can I talk while my party backs up. If there is no feasible reason for us to be there, I go into bladesong, take disengage and go right past the orcs to the door on the other side and throw it open, my move is 40 so I make it in one...

What am I trying to do? Why are we here at all? Why did I see them from only 20 feet away and why the heck is the rest of the party so close? Are there any chokeepoints? What specific classes are my allies? Probably charm person on the leader if I have it prepared or friends if I have it...

That is great except I have never played with a party with that makeup. One party I play with a bladesinger has a human battlemaster/fey warlock multiclass, a halfling assasin/vengance Paladin multiclass and a human swashbuckler/fey warlock multiclass. We also at times have a 5th member, a...

you are having it both ways. To start with she chooses what to do every single round,she does not go into a battle and say "i am dodging for 10 rounds". She can choose to dodge if 4 Orcs and two Orogs are attacking her. She can choose not to dodge if they are not. Let me get this straight...

Let me point out the first and biggest falacy in this whole arguement. - Supposedly the Bladesinger can not be on the front line in melee because she is too weak and does not have enough hps and if she uses spells like blur to bolster her defense she is "wasting" them ..... but if she goes into...

Moving on a few notes-the damage is not the point of sentinel. The entire feat is based on stopping someone who is moving. The bladesinger likely has a 19AC or a 20 if she pushed dex to 18 with an ASI or half feat. Elven accuracy is a waste for a bladesinger. Sentinel, War Caster, an ASI or...

So we never did it officially, but I had a character who we had played with for years and was always a wizard. She decided to try somethingv new and play a Rogue. She took defensive duelist at 4th level. I thought it was a bad idea but did not want to discourage her. I did not want to be...

One of the two bladesingers I play has Sentinel, and uses a whip primarily so it covers a broad area. Why wouldn't you take it if your whole goal in your character build is to control the battlefield? It makes perfect sense as a build and works really well. The second one does not have it but...

Because she is a caster for one and does pose a threat, and/or he can't get around her easily. This is like asking why would he attack anyone in the front when you can go around him and get to squishy characters in the rear. If it is a choke point they can't get around her unless they use the...

You are keeping them off your other characters. That is the whole point of the bladesinger and it undeniably works. You present yourself to be attacked and the enemy attacks you while others damage the enemy. You also block chokepoints. There is no denying it works extremely effectively...

Plate guys AC is 18 if he is still alive, if fights completely ran a mid-level single-class bladesinger out of spell slots he probably isn't though and if they ran a high level bladesinger out he definitely isn't. With point buy, awizard's AC is generally 16 at low levels without bladesong or...

Hit points are a limited use resource too so whether I lose 50hp with my fighter being fireballed. or I lose 25hp and a 1st level slot with my wizard being fireballed, both used limited use resources. I would argue the Wizard used fewer as she now has resistance for the rest of the round and...

You are talking about a wizard casting two second-level spells in a battle to become nearly unhitable by most foes. That is hardly expensive. The fighter can not come close to that, and even without that expense of spell slots she is will ahead of the fighter. The guy in plate armor really...

I never said she was a melee fighter. Often I don't even attack and just take the dodge action. I said she will survive in melee longer than a fighter. Bladesinger has a better AC, more defensive spells and at higher levels effectively more hit points. If she and an EK with similar ability...

Spell slot limits aside there is not much difference between a tanking fighter and a tanking wizard. If the wizard has 42 hp and gets hit with a 50hp fireball and cuts it to 25 and then gets hit again for another 25 he can't use a nother reaction and is at zero hit points. Fighter with 64 hit...

Above 10th level a bladesinger is going to keep up with a fighter by using spell slots and absorb elements to reduce damage. Below that yeah sure. As for evasion it is nice when you can use it, but that is far from all the time (it will not work on two of the three save examples you gave...