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Yeah. Too bad that between all my players, everyone has essentially already played all the "big adventures." So I'll need to create my own (which is hard for me to balance correctly and likely to go unappreciated anyway) or find some obscure 3PP adventure. And it's difficult to find reviews and...

Right. But I think a skirmish style boardgame like Gloomhaven would be better for that than me busting my brain on a weekly basis to create dynamic encounters with a system not designed to do that. To be fair, it was "unsatisfying" to me. I think they were ok just coming and eating snacks...

Yeah it's hard to tell at this stage. I'll definitely take a look at that SRD when it's all released. I have a feeling that I already have a better version of 5E for me without waiting until 2025. I own hard copies of Level Up and Flee Mortals. I have PDFs of a lot of Sly Flourish stuff I can...

It's great when people can find love of the hobby in general. In my case, it's like I'm hanging out with folks who claim to be Star Wars fans who like only the theatrical releases of the original trilogy, hate all the Expanded Universe with the exception of the Thrawn Trilogy, despise the...

3.5/PF1 was just too much. Too many bonuses of different types. Too many action types. Too many ongoing effects. Diagonal movement turning every round into counting squares like a game of checkers. Grappling. Feats. Multiclass and Prestige class. Monster statblocks that took up multiple pages...

I haven't had great luck with 5e because I haven't been able to figure out how to make combats exciting or how to award treasure properly. Also, the more tactical-minded players (such as my wife - who is the biggest proponent of games like 4E and PF2) get bored with the lack of combat options...

I understand. I have that classic middle child syndrome of trying to appease people (while remaining a total weirdo). I think there's a solution. It could be finding a mechanic to lessen the need for bean counting inventory in Dragonbane. It might be doing some house rules to make 5e work better...

I still have my Pathfinder 1 book. Same thing, right?

To clarify, the two "problem players" are my wife and my neighbor, so that has other considerations to not just nuke the group and risk damaging these relationships. I'd rather turn "bad gaming" into the best I can make it.

I don't know if there's a perfect system. I've spent lots of time and money trying to find it. More than likely it's going to take me getting my hands dirty and curating the experience with some GM skills I haven't used in 20 years. Honestly, I've been trying to find an out of the box solution...

I've been curious about T&T for a while, but have never had luck finding it. If I do get it, I'll try selling it to my group by saying, "It's TNT, it's ... dynomite."

I guess the same should be said about me, in reverse? I should be happy running whatever the group wants to play, maybe? I just got so burned out for the rules heavy stuff, running it weekly, and now starting my master's program. I just wanted to do something easier on me.

Maybe. And maybe I can add house rules to do "quick combats" for the boring ones, because most APs run a little long for my taste. I just can't find any more official 5e stuff that I haven't already run that interests me. I could convert from other systems, write my own, or dig through the muck...

Yeah, I addressed that back on page 3. It's mostly the power-based design that made me think "it's crossing just a bit too much into that 4E territory we just left." https://www.enworld.org/threads/how-dragonbane-pointed-out-the-clashing-desires-of-my-gaming-group.706571/post-9453545

Yeah. I understand that. We just had close to a year of disconnected, arena-style combats that required no work from them. One of the other players and I (half the group) wanted a change of pace. (This other player, by the way, was excited to do the inventory management and roleplaying for the...

I do think I need to see what happens after the second session, after they know what to expect. If they have the same complaints and want to jettison the system, we can have a different conversation of what to do afterwards. It's always fun to run into people from other communities. I have a...

So your partner is normally the player but doesn't normally play RPGs at all, then had a lot of fun running the quickstart adventure? If I got that correct, I have hope in my abilities to run it. :)

They do not put in the work to understand complex games or their characters' abilities within them. Perhaps it would be different with an actively supported system like PF2 as opposed to 4E - where they can read on Archives of Nethys, use Pathbuilder, etc. It's just - my lord it's complex...

They have shot down the D&D-adjacent board game suggestions I've made, including HeroQuest, Descent, Gloomhaven, etc. I don't really play CRPGs, but my wife has enjoyed Baldur's Gate without me. They can go on raids together if they want.

I am just having nightmares trying to explain to them Multiple Attack Penalty, Agile Trait, the Dying mechanics, the 3-Action economy, and building a 1st level character when they struggled to understand the difference between Encounter and Daily powers in 4E and then thought it was unfair that...